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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / January 2005

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TSB 04-017 Engine - Rattle/Clatter Noise On Cold Start-Up

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Robert - 11 Jan 2005 23:47 GMT
Hi,

I have a 2003 Nissan Xterra SC model.  I am contemplating setting up an
appointment to have this TSB fixed on my 'X'.  I hate to fix something
that isn't broken but I do hear the sound on cold starts.  Does anyone
have a copy of the TSB?  I'd like to know how extensive this work is.
To change the lifters will they have to remove the intake manifold or
is it done by just removing the valve covers?

I'd rather not have the dealership disassembling my X unless it's
necessary.

Thanks in Advance,
Robert
remco - 12 Jan 2005 01:04 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> To change the lifters will they have to remove the intake manifold or
> is it done by just removing the valve covers?

Hi Robert

Is this what you are looking for?
http://www.nissanhelp.com/bulletins/Xterra/2003/1.htm

Regards,
Remco
Robert - 12 Jan 2005 01:18 GMT
That sure looks right.  I guess I thought the TSB would contain more
information about the lifter replacement procedure.  I'm still not sure
I want to subject my 10K mile motor to a dealership service this
severe.

Thanks Much for the link.
NissTech - 13 Jan 2005 01:12 GMT
Yep.

Ya gotta watch those dealership technicians, they haven't got a freaking
clue how to take apart and or fix your truck.

I guess all that factory training and ASE certifications don't mean squat.

PLONK

To the kill file with you
LOSER !

> That sure looks right.  I guess I thought the TSB would contain more
> information about the lifter replacement procedure.  I'm still not sure
> I want to subject my 10K mile motor to a dealership service this
> severe.
>
> Thanks Much for the link.
john smith - 13 Jan 2005 03:22 GMT
Nisstech you are the exception.  Let me tell you about the 350Z that was
in the Nissan shop seven times for the same problem with the injectors.
 They replaced two injectors and it still ran like crap.  Then, they
replaced the fuel pump and it ran worse.  Then they replaced coils...
Then they pinched the gasket on the intake in one of their attempts.
They left the strut brace loose on another visit and then they left a
ground cable off on another.  Finally, on time seven they flushed the
injectors and the problem was solved.  So, Nisstech you are the
exception and I appreciate your knowledge and support to the group.

> Yep.
>
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>>
>>Thanks Much for the link.
Robert - 13 Jan 2005 15:02 GMT
All that great training didnt help the dealership diagnose my
Supercharger problem until I had taken the vehicle in five times!  So
forgive me if I am a little hesitant to go running to Nissan everytime
I have a problem.

If your willing to dump on somebody that easily because they express
concern about taking their vehicle in for a major engine breakdown for
a TSB that doesnt seem very severe then maybe you are not as wise a
tech as we think you are.

Maybe instead of your b.s. posting, you could have answered the
question.

PLONK is a cool sound effect.

> Yep.
>
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> >
> > Thanks Much for the link.
NissTech - 13 Jan 2005 23:58 GMT
Ok gang,
point taken.

I guess in the grand scheme of things "all things are not created equal".

I feel your pain John with the problem you had with your Z car.

and Robert , I understand where you are coming from too.

I guess I hold the "dealership technician" to a different standard because I
hold myself to one.

I guess some dealership tech's just don't give a damn about fixing the
customers car correctly.

At my dealership , technicians are rewarded for having there F1 ( Nissan
speak for "fixed right the first time") score above the Regional average
which ranges from the upper 80's to the mid 90's  on a 1-100 scale, this
scoring happens every month.

The F1 scoring started in the early 90's if I remember correctly, and since
that time , I think I have only missed it probably ten times year to date.

No I'm not saying that I am the greatest thing since sliced bread , but I do
care about my customers. I guess that is why I am so passionate.

ok , I'm off my soap box

:-))

> All that great training didnt help the dealership diagnose my
> Supercharger problem until I had taken the vehicle in five times!  So
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> > >
> > > Thanks Much for the link.
Robert - 14 Jan 2005 16:32 GMT
Nisstech,

I'm glad you still on these forums.  Can you tell me based off of your
knowledge of this TSB, would you have it done if it were your xTerra?
Thanks,
Robert
 
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