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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / March 2005

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need help with 93 SE KC, no one can fix.

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specman1@webtv.net - 28 Feb 2005 17:27 GMT
Hello, I posted awhile back about my 93 nissan SE V6 KC that had a bad
noise and vibraton i n the driveline. First tech kept it for 2 months,
changed the rear ebd center chunk, all universal joints, and the center
bearing. The problem is still there just at a different speed. When you
get to 39 MPH there is a very bad vibration in the floor and driveline.
The faster you go past 39 the worst it gets. I took it to 2 other
reputable repair techs and they both told me we have no idea where its
coming from. Said they would have changed the same thing the first
nissan tech changed. What makes it so bad was 3 months ago I was on my
way to town to put it in the paper for sale to help pay for a 2000
tundra I had just bought when it suddenly started this noise. This truck
has never gave me ANY problems. Only I could have that kind of crappy
luck! I am now a grand ligher and still have a torn up truck. I may just
have to junk it. I cant afford to keep throwing money at it that I was
going to use for paying on other truck. I thought about selling it as is
being the body and engine is in perfect shape but I would about have to
give it away. Any suggestons would be appreciated.

Danny
Remco - 28 Feb 2005 18:13 GMT
I've never worked on your type of truck, but I wonder if it could be
transmission related?

You didn't mention if it was an auto or manual, but what happens to the
vibration when you put it in neutral? (Obviously don't slam it back in
gear if this is an automatic at that speed, so be careful)
If the vibration goes away, it clearly isn't anything related to the
wheels or axel.

On cars I've seen a bad motor or transmission mount cause vibration and
resonance like this as well.

Remco
specman1@webtv.net - 28 Feb 2005 19:09 GMT
Remco, its a AT. I also wondered about the tranny. The tech did not
think there was a tranny problem, but was not 100% sure. When you get
above 39 and put it in neutral the noise/vibration is still there. I
forgot to add I have pulled a trailor withit for the past 5 years with
my lawn equipment on it. Has 181k miles.
Thanks
Remco - 28 Feb 2005 20:16 GMT
Weird - that driveline bearing would have been a likely suspect but
that's been changed already.

This may be totally offbeat, but are you sure it isn't tire related?
They do develop soft spots over time and maybe this is what unbalances
it all. It could be easily checked, swapping the tires to the back to
see if that helps or changes things.
specman1@webtv.net - 28 Feb 2005 22:49 GMT
Remco. I rotated the tires few weeks back, made no difference. The
dealer I took it to has a tech that is the best at tire problems. He
quickly told me that it was not a tire noise. Wished it were that easy!
remco - 01 Mar 2005 13:56 GMT
> Remco. I rotated the tires few weeks back, made no difference. The
> dealer I took it to has a tech that is the best at tire problems. He
> quickly told me that it was not a tire noise. Wished it were that easy!

That's a weird one. Have they checked the suspension? And it is always 39
mph on any road? If you go uphill/downhill does that speed where it makes
noise change?

I remember reading a while ago on one of these groups that if you see the
vibration in your rear view mirror, it tends to be tire related. If it is a
low frequency noise or hum, it tends to be driveshaft related -- I am not
sure if that is a true statement or an old wife's tale, but perhaps others
here could confirm that.
(if anything, it will keep this thread on top of the pile, so eventually
someone might know what's going on)

My exposure to trucks is fairly limited (F-250) but they can't be that
different from cars, right :)
specman1@webtv.net - 01 Mar 2005 16:33 GMT
Remco, it does not matter what type of pavement your on or going up hill
either. When you hit 39 it feels sorta like the truck has electrical
current going thru the floorboard and the noise is constant right up on
up to any speed above 39. I have the truck for sale and I hate to sale
it like this. It is not an unbearable noise but is noticable. Now
someone might test drive it and not even notice it but I would.
mcclure.nospam@newsguy.com - 01 Mar 2005 20:52 GMT
A friend of mine had the same issue. On his it turned out to be the
drive shaft. One of the balancing weights had fallen off, and once he
had it re-balanced it was fine.

>Hello, I posted awhile back about my 93 nissan SE V6 KC that had a bad
>noise and vibraton i n the driveline. First tech kept it for 2 months,
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>Danny
Remco - 02 Mar 2005 20:39 GMT
Well, that sounds very plausible since you started hearing that noise
suddenly, right Danny?
If that's it, goes to show you that one learns something new every day.
specman1@webtv.net - 04 Mar 2005 22:48 GMT
I got some additional info that may be more helpful. I talked to a tech
today who used to be one of the best nissan techs around and had just
got out of military. He told me he had a nissan identical to ine down to
the color with the same problem that he had spent 3 weeks working on and
off. Changed rear end (new) new driveshaft, center bearing and u-joints
and did not fix it. Finally found out was the At tranny.  Customer told
him not to fix would drive till it quit. I took mine out today and ran
it up to 65 and pushed it up in neutral. When I did the truck started
surging intermittingly like you were smashing the brakes on and off. The
tach also moved up and down between 1500 and 1800 rpm. When I got down
to below 40 it smoothed out. Im not sure this is the tranny? I have a
2000 Tundra that goes thru brakes and cant keep the tires balanced on. I
have both these babies for sale and there will be a NEW under WARRANTY
vehicle sitting in my yard within the next 2 weeks!! Enough of this
crap. When I get a vehicle or a woman that aggravates or dolllars me to
death they are history!
Remco - 05 Mar 2005 00:18 GMT
wow -- weird how even the tech couldn't for sure tell what the problem
is.. One would expect that to be an exact science. That you and me
shady tree mechanics are stumped, is one thing.

Well, let me know when you find one that doesn't aggrivate you..
( a woman, that is :)

Remco
specman1@webtv.net - 05 Mar 2005 02:29 GMT
Exactly Remco. If he cant guarantee me  the fix Im not spending another
cent on it. A rebulit tranny is 2000 and a junk yard is a 1000 and the
truck is only worth about 3 grand. If these 2 vehicle are not sold by
the end of the week they will be traded (give away) on a new one. I will
say my nissan looks and runs brand new other thean the driveline noise.
Im waiting to see if someone makes me a decent offer for it.
specman1@webtv.net - 05 Mar 2005 02:30 GMT
Oh BTW Remco, there is no such woman : )
Remco - 05 Mar 2005 03:28 GMT
Oh, man!?!?! Now you tell me!!!!! :)

Good luck with your new truck, once you get it.
 
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