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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / May 2005

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power lock breaks down when connected to alarm

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news.tweakdsl.nl - 21 May 2005 08:52 GMT
Hi all,

I just replaced the motor for the power lock on the driver side, which
worked fo about an hour...

Now it seems like the current was to high and theres no motion at all, like
its melted or something. (had a real hard time unlocking the door...) Does
anyone know what might cause this?

I drive a 1992 Maxima 3.0E (european model)
Peter Hill - 21 May 2005 10:18 GMT
>Hi all,
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>I drive a 1992 Maxima 3.0E (european model)

The door lock timer operates the door lock motor for a timed period -
about 1 sec.  Most alarm systems just apply power and expect the door
lock motor to have a limit switch that cuts the power when it has
operated.  If you keep power applied on a Nissan lock motor it will
burn out.
I'm Right - 21 May 2005 17:06 GMT
improperly wired into the system, the motor itself would determine the
amount of current it consumed
Current = watts/volts  I=P/E

current = volts over resistance    I=E/R

the car has 12 volts, the motor has a set resistance,, that's all the
current it can consume.

> Hi all,
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> I drive a 1992 Maxima 3.0E (european model)
Professor - 22 May 2005 14:36 GMT
The power door lock actuator is nothing more than a solenoid. These
solenoid type actuators are only designed for intermittent duty. Sounds
like yours was energized for a period of time. You need to find out why
before you replace the actuactor again. I have seen those actuators
melt down in a lump in 15-20 minutes time (depending on ambient
temperature) if they are constantly energized. What is the link between
the alarm and door locks? Is this an aftermarket alarm system?

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

> Hi all,
>
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> I drive a 1992 Maxima 3.0E (european model)
Peter Hill - 22 May 2005 19:55 GMT
>The power door lock actuator is nothing more than a solenoid. These
>solenoid type actuators are only designed for intermittent duty. Sounds
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>Professor
>www.telstar-electronics.com

I agree that he has them energized all the time.

BUT
1: Nissan power locks have a motor in them (I suppose you could push
the point and call it rotary solenoid).  Even the £10 from Maplins and
the things Ford fit for the power lock on the hatch of a '96 Escort
Ghia have motors in them.
2: Nissan have a Posistor (thermal circuit breaker) in the circuit.
when this gets hot the current is limited and the motor can't enough
current to operate.

Having had a look at the Nissan workshop manual and taken one apart
there is a limit switch.  So it either it's being driven the wrong way
or has to much drag from the lock to operate.  Try some WD40.
Professor - 23 May 2005 13:51 GMT
OK I guess I revealed my age on that one... LOL
Maybe I should say the last door lock actuator I worked on was a pure
solenoid. Anyway... we are in agreement that both solenoids and motors
that are stalled can be very high current drains... resulting in high
heat dissipation. Thanks for bringing me up to date.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com
 
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