I have a Nissan Primera 1.6 sx.
I have been getting a judder on the RH wheel as I come to a junction. I have replaced both the discs and the pads and am still having this problem. The only thing that I can think of now is that the ABS is somehow cutting in ( the effect is the same as when you brake on snow or ice and the ABS takes over. The brake failure light in the instrument panel is not lighting up to show any faults, Nor does any fault show up on the electronic diagnostics
what I need to know is
a.. has anyone else had this effect?
b.. What could be the likely cause?
c.. is there any part of the ABS system that needs greasing?
d.. how can I test if the ABS is working correctly?
would be grateful for any information as to how I can fix this fault
many thanks in advance
Jim Ward
Professor - 23 May 2005 18:35 GMT
You should clearly hear the ABS pump motor running while driving if
indeed the ABS is kicking in. My guess is that this is a very unlikely
cause of your problem.
Professor
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Andy Champ - 23 May 2005 22:47 GMT
> You should clearly hear the ABS pump motor running while driving if
> indeed the ABS is kicking in. My guess is that this is a very unlikely
> cause of your problem.
>
> Professor
> www.telstar-electronics.com
You'll also feel it through the pedal.
You can test the ABS just by braking hard, with someone watching to be
certain - they should be able to see the wheels "doing their thing".
Is the vibrating in any way speed sensitive? ABS vibration is not.
Andy
Peter Hill - 24 May 2005 00:10 GMT
>I have a Nissan Primera 1.6 sx.
>I have been getting a judder on the RH wheel as I come to a junction. I have replaced both the discs and the pads and am still having this problem. The only thing that I can think of now is that the ABS is somehow cutting in ( the effect is the same as when you brake on snow or ice and the ABS takes over. The brake failure light in the instrument panel is not lighting up to show any faults, Nor does any fault show up on the electronic diagnostics
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>many thanks in advance
>Jim Ward
ABS light should light when you switch ignition on and go out on
starting, if it doesn't then you need to fix this (check and replace
bulb and then circuit) before you can see a fault indication.
Brake less hard so it doesn't trigger the ABS. Still happens even
under light braking at any speed on good surface?
Possible for the pickup on the wheel to lose the bit that protrudes by
small object getting in and getting trapped between pickup and toothed
ring (they corrode in so well that it's unlikely for the sensor have
fallen out). Should have 0.275-0.75mm (0.0108-0.0295in) clearance to
toothed rotor. As sensor still has winding connected it's not
detectable as a fault.
Something else that prevents pickup sensing toothed ring. The
toothed ring has broken, fallen off, or someone fitted a hub without
the ring.
Poor earth on sensor shield causes incorrect tooth detection.
Lose wheel bearing causes incorrect tooth detection due to wobble.
Possible air in system. Bleed wheel cylinder then ABS.
Check you have in excess of 12 volts when running.
Mahound - 25 May 2005 15:30 GMT
Thanks for the replies, some more information, if that can help you to help
me.
It only happens as I approach a junction or roundabout.
It happens when i am going slow upwards from 5 - 10 miles / hour. even under
good road conditions
I can feel the vibration on the pedal as it happens, and hear the noise from
the r/h frt wheel
When it happens the brake pedal goes hard,
The ABS light is working ok comes on with the ignition and then goes off as
it should.
I am not breaking hard enough to the ABS to kick in
Many thanks for the suggestions I will try them out and try to sort the
problem out.
Meanwhile if the above info gives you any further help, It would be much
appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Jim Ward
Professor - 26 May 2005 02:22 GMT
Does this problem happen only on turns?
Professor
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> Thanks for the replies, some more information, if that can help you to help
> me.
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> Thanks in advance
> Jim Ward
Mahound - 26 May 2005 12:35 GMT
only happens when approaching a junction or roundabout, there is a slight
turning of the wheels as you would when approaching a junction. the wheel is
never on a full lock
> Does this problem happen only on turns?
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> > Thanks in advance
> > Jim Ward
Professor - 26 May 2005 13:18 GMT
I'm just wondering if your could have a problem with your velocity
joints. Normally when they are worn... you hear noises and pehaps
clunking (if they are really worn) when the front wheels are turned and
moving. I suppose you could also have a differential problem if this
noise is only on turns. I would certainly check the joints first...
rather simple to do.
Professor
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> only happens when approaching a junction or roundabout, there is a slight
> turning of the wheels as you would when approaching a junction. the wheel is
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> > > Thanks in advance
> > > Jim Ward