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this car is killing me!!!!

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lil_leah - 26 Jul 2005 23:36 GMT
i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.

the car is a nissan pulser 84. the problem is endless, when driving a
night the lights on the dash board turn off but the headlights stay
on, usually they will turn on again if i quickly "flick" them. but
they hasnt seemed to work for the last couple of days. any ideas?
but theres a bigger problem. for the last week while in drive (the
cars auto) it stalls, shakes badly and completly turns off.
this is endorsed more so when the brake is touched. the lights are a
perfect example im driving 60k lights up ahead go orange i begin to
brake car dies??
does anyone have any ideas??
Shawn - 27 Jul 2005 00:50 GMT
your alternator needs replaced

>i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
> begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.
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> brake car dies??
> does anyone have any ideas??
pmp - 27 Jul 2005 00:53 GMT
> your alternator needs replaced

How would his alternator cause the car to stall when already running?
If he had problems starting, I could understand...

> >i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
> > begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> > brake car dies??
> > does anyone have any ideas??
Shawn - 27 Jul 2005 14:16 GMT
if its not charging the battery then it will stall, try disconnecting the
battery on your car and it will die, same thing with a failed alternator, it
will stall due to such low battery voltage, think about it, headlights dim
way down while driving points to the alternator failing.

>> your alternator needs replaced
>
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>> > brake car dies??
>> > does anyone have any ideas??
Steve T - 28 Jul 2005 06:23 GMT
> if its not charging the battery then it will stall, try disconnecting the
> battery on your car and it will die,

LOL, do this while the car is running and you'll kill the alternator
regulator! Unreal how people still use "diagnostic tools" from the 1960's
on modern cars.

> same thing with a failed alternator,
> it will stall due to such low battery voltage, think about it, headlights
> dim way down while driving points to the alternator failing.

If that was the case, the car wouldn't start back up!

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pmp - 29 Jul 2005 03:41 GMT
> if its not charging the battery then it will stall, try disconnecting the
> battery on your car and it will die, same thing with a failed alternator,
> it will stall due to such low battery voltage, think about it, headlights
> dim way down while driving points to the alternator failing.

Makes sense in a way I suppose; but that implies that both battery and
alternator are dying.  The alternator's sole purpose is to charge the
battery, isn't it?  But a dead alternator would no doubt let the battery
drain premature, and the car wouldn't even turn over.

> <askme@myserver.com> wrote: > >> your alternator needs replaced > > How
> would his alternator cause the car to stall when already running? > If he
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Steve T - 29 Jul 2005 03:55 GMT
>> if its not charging the battery then it will stall, try disconnecting the
>> battery on your car and it will die, same thing with a failed alternator,
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> battery, isn't it?  But a dead alternator would no doubt let the battery
> drain premature, and the car wouldn't even turn over.

Exactly and they are saying it stalls, but cranks back up so the battery
isn't dead..

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Shawn - 29 Jul 2005 11:58 GMT
a good battery even if drained will start a vehicle again if left to sit
awhile

> > if its not charging the battery then it will stall, try disconnecting the
> > battery on your car and it will die, same thing with a failed alternator,
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pmp - 30 Jul 2005 05:30 GMT
> a good battery even if drained will start a vehicle again if left to sit
> awhile

Yeah, but how many times will it do that?!  If the alternator is shot,
then the battery *will not recharge*, right?  I can understand a "good"
battery starting a vehicle if left to sit a while, but how many times
can it do this?  If it could do that continuously (start vehicle, let
sit for X hours, repeat), then noone would ever recharge their
batteries.
pmp - 27 Jul 2005 00:51 GMT
> i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
> begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.
>
> the car is a nissan pulser 84.

Damn.  That's a 21 year old vehicle!  And it's just giving you problems
now?  What country are you in?  I'm not sure, but I know that the Nissan
240SX (my own car) had several names (240SX, 180SX, 200SX, Silvia
(non-fastback version), etc.) depending on country.

> the problem is endless, when driving a
> night the lights on the dash board turn off but the headlights stay
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> perfect example im driving 60k lights up ahead go orange i begin to
> brake car dies??

The headlights could be a simple harness problem.  Have you checked the
switch itself?  If it was only one light on the dash, I might suspect
the light itself; my own cluster has lost one light.  My climate control
also flicks on and off like yours, but it is attributed to an (almost)
dead light.

I did a search; your particular vehicle has a recall for the headlights,
which might be your problem.  Details here:

http://auto-recalls.justia.com/content/85V021000-NISSAN-PULSAR-1984.html

As for your engine problems.  When was the last time basic things such
as air filter, O2 sensor, etc. were changed?  Is your car FI (Fuel
Injected) or carborator?  

> does anyone have any ideas??

That's all I have for now.
Shawn - 27 Jul 2005 14:17 GMT
if you dont believe me that its the alternator then have someone remove it
and take it in for a test, autozone tests em for free

>i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
> begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> brake car dies??
> does anyone have any ideas??
Steve T - 28 Jul 2005 06:25 GMT
> if you dont believe me that its the alternator then have someone remove it
> and take it in for a test, autozone tests em for free

Dude that is the LAST thing they should check for this complaint. If the alt
was the problem, the car wouldn't restart...
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Shawn - 28 Jul 2005 12:58 GMT
bullshit, if the alternator isnt totally junk it will still start and run

>> if you dont believe me that its the alternator then have someone remove
>> it
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> alt
> was the problem, the car wouldn't restart...
pmp - 29 Jul 2005 03:46 GMT
> bullshit, if the alternator isnt totally junk it will still start and run

If the alternator is shot, the battery will eventually die completely.
The car won't turn over at all without enough juice in the battery.

Dead alternator -> dead battery (eventually) -> no start
Steve T - 29 Jul 2005 03:57 GMT
> bullshit, if the alternator isnt totally junk it will still start and run

If the starter can crank the car back up, the battery isn't dead so THAT
isn't making it stall. Waste of time and money removing it to check this
anyway, anyplace can easily test it with it on the car.

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pmp - 29 Jul 2005 03:41 GMT
> if you dont believe me that its the alternator then have someone remove it
> and take it in for a test, autozone tests em for free

Yeah but we still don't know where s/he is located. LOL. Autozone isn't
international, if he is in Oz or Europe, he's screwed.  But I'm sure
they have an equivalent.  :)

If in Canada, you can take it to Canadian Tire or Parts Source to test
for free I think.
Steve T - 28 Jul 2005 06:22 GMT
> i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
> begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.
>
> the car is a nissan pulser 84.

Well it is over 20 years old!

> the problem is endless, when driving a
> night the lights on the dash board turn off but the headlights stay
> on, usually they will turn on again if i quickly "flick" them. but
> they hasnt seemed to work for the last couple of days. any ideas?

Yea, check your tail lights. I bet they aren';t working when the dash light
are out either. If that's the case, the headlight switch is probably toast.

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Shawn - 28 Jul 2005 12:59 GMT
lol the headlight switch is causing it to stall and causing the dim
headlights?

>> i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
>> begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> are out either. If that's the case, the headlight switch is probably
> toast.
Steve T - 29 Jul 2005 03:54 GMT
> lol the headlight switch is causing it to stall and causing the dim
> headlights?

No a bad headlight switch will make the dash lights/ tail lights not
function.

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Shawn - 28 Jul 2005 13:00 GMT
guess you dont know as much as you make yourself out to know, some people
are just know nothing know it alls

>> i brought a lemon... it is my first car and it was cheap!!! so... to
>> begin with is was great no problems, now 9 months later its a problem.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> are out either. If that's the case, the headlight switch is probably
> toast.
Zebra - 28 Jul 2005 15:57 GMT
I think the dash board should have a battery symbol warning idicator. If the
alternator is not working, it should come on.  Isn't it?

¼¶¼g...
> guess you dont know as much as you make yourself out to know, some people
> are just know nothing know it alls
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> > are out either. If that's the case, the headlight switch is probably
> > toast.
Brian Foster - 28 Jul 2005 21:35 GMT
> the car is a nissan pulser 84. the problem is endless,

Problem solved: buy a new car.....

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