> bosch are the very worst choice you could have made, go with ngk and your
> problems will be solved
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> > Mark
What was his "problem"? Sounds to me like he got 75,000 miles out of
these inferior brand of spark plugs. I didn't think they ("we", I work
at Nissan) were making Sentra's that go 100,000 miles between tune ups
back in '94? Maybe I missed that meeting. Anyway, I think Bosch's work
quite well, especially in a car that's probably pushing or has passed
200,000 miles. I've always used them, and I haven't had any problems
with Bosch... sounds like you do. I use Bosch Platinum +4's in my 1998
Frontier with 150,000 miles and get 24-27 MPG. I also use them in my
1990 Mazda MX-6 with 239,000 miles and get 26-32 MPG. I'd say those are
pretty good numbers out of these inferior spark plugs.
Note: sarcastic demeanor was meant.
Al
Codifus - 05 Aug 2005 14:46 GMT
>>bosch are the very worst choice you could have made, go with ngk and your
>>problems will be solved
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> Note: sarcastic demeanor was meant.
> Al
I've also heard alot of bad raps for those BOSCH plugs. I always try to
look at the flip side, though. As you've pointed out, the OP got 75K
miles out of 'em, so he must be satisfied with that. I certainly would
be. Perhaps the thing with the BOSCH plugs is that they are very
critical of torqueing down, you TQ too much and one of its 4 tips will
be way too close to the flying piston, wreaking havoc to your engine.
Hell, I have BOSCH +2s in my wife's altima right now. I was getting the
NGK, and while sitting at the counter at the auto store, the BOSCH plugs
were in my face, and cheap to boot. So I tried them, and so far so good.
In terms of feel, I get the very slight impression that the BOSCH plugs
change the TQ curve, tilting it higher, in other words there's a bit
more power up top and a little less in the middle. Just a gut feeling
from being used to the car. With that kind of TQ change feul economy
will go down because to get more oomfh out of the car you have to push
it higher into the rpms. Feeling that, I may as well switch back to the
NGKs next time.
Did you notice a change in the TQ on your cars?
CD
The Bosch's have worked well, and may not even need replacement. I will
replace the wires because a hole arc'ed through #3 and I had to fix it with
electrical tape. I figured since they had 75K on them it might be a good
time to replace them.
What's so great about the NGK's that would make me want to use them?
Mark
> bosch are the very worst choice you could have made, go with ngk and your
> problems will be solved
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>> Mark
Codifus - 16 Sep 2005 13:29 GMT
> The Bosch's have worked well, and may not even need replacement. I will
> replace the wires because a hole arc'ed through #3 and I had to fix it with
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>>>Mark
NGKs are the OEM equipment. In other words, genuine Nissan, so to speak.
The engine was designed with the characteristics of those spark plugs
in mind.
I'll admitt I've substituted bosch in my cars as well. Never the +4s,
though, just the +2s. Haven't had any bad experiences. I wonder if
anyone notices a slight shift in the torque curve? With the OEM NGK, I
tend to notice a stronger bottom end. With the Bosch, I noticed a
slightly weaker bottom, but stronger top end. This has been my casual
observation on the GA16DE and KA24DE motors.
CD