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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / October 2005

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Injector cleaner?

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Doug - 24 Oct 2005 02:31 GMT
What brand of injector cleaner should I use in my 99 pathy?
I have read that Techron is very good.
The local Nissan thief wants $99.00 to do the job, and I'm tired of being
jobbed!
Regards
DR
Chuck Tribolet - 24 Oct 2005 04:31 GMT
What makes you think you need it?

> What brand of injector cleaner should I use in my 99 pathy?
> I have read that Techron is very good.
> The local Nissan thief wants $99.00 to do the job, and I'm tired of being jobbed!
> Regards
> DR
Doug - 24 Oct 2005 06:40 GMT
79000 miles and sluggish acceleration!
> What makes you think you need it?
>
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>> Regards
>> DR
Steve T - 24 Oct 2005 07:52 GMT
> 79000 miles and sluggish acceleration!

I highly doubt cleaning the injectors is going to help. That's an american
car thing, they use the "ball" type injectors which are prone to clogging.
A nissan uses a pintle type which doesn't have those issues. Also a
profession cleaning runs full strength cleaner through the injectors which
isn't even close to the same as putting a can of something in the gas tank.

But techron is a good combustion chamber cleaning additive and won't hurt
anything. My guess is you have a knock sensor problem..

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Chuck Tribolet - 24 Oct 2005 23:02 GMT
Air cleaner is another possibility.

>> 79000 miles and sluggish acceleration!
>
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> But techron is a good combustion chamber cleaning additive and won't hurt
> anything. My guess is you have a knock sensor problem..
PC - 25 Oct 2005 09:57 GMT
>> 79000 miles and sluggish acceleration!
>
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> But techron is a good combustion chamber cleaning additive and won't hurt
> anything. My guess is you have a knock sensor problem..

Would back Steve on that one.
I have a 98 Stagea wagon (Skyline) Neo 2.5L had poor round town gas mileage.
Tried a couple of Injector cleaners thru the tank, no difference.
Got my local to pull them and ultrasonically clean them (3 were dribbling)
and got 5 MPG better round town consumption.

Paul.
do_not_spam_me@my-deja.com - 26 Oct 2005 22:24 GMT
> I highly doubt cleaning the injectors is going to help. That's an american
> car thing, they use the "ball" type injectors which are prone to clogging.
> A nissan uses a pintle type which doesn't have those issues.

That's strange because GM went to ball injectors to prevent clogging.
Steve T - 27 Oct 2005 07:52 GMT
>> I highly doubt cleaning the injectors is going to help. That's an
>> american car thing, they use the "ball" type injectors which are prone to
>> clogging. A nissan uses a pintle type which doesn't have those issues.
>
> That's strange because GM went to ball injectors to prevent clogging.

Do some reading on the subject. Ball injectors may be better than plate
injectors but aren't as good as pintle type.
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do_not_spam_me@my-deja.com - 28 Oct 2005 04:45 GMT
> I highly doubt cleaning the injectors is going to help. That's an
> american car thing, they use the "ball" type injectors which are prone to
> clogging. A nissan uses a pintle type which doesn't have those issues.

> > That's strange because GM went to ball injectors to prevent clogging.

> Do some reading on the subject. Ball injectors may be better than plate
> injectors but aren't as good as pintle type.

I'll admit I'm no authority on the subject, but I thought the earliest
gasoline fuel injectors for production cars were usually the pintle
type, and the newer versions have the pintle set back slightly to keep
it from the worst heat.  All the injectors featured in Chevron's before
& after photos in their Techron brochures are the pintle type.
Steve T - 28 Oct 2005 05:20 GMT
>> I highly doubt cleaning the injectors is going to help. That's an
>> american car thing, they use the "ball" type injectors which are prone to
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> gasoline fuel injectors for production cars were usually the pintle
> type,

I don't think GM used them, too expensive.

http://www.sdsefi.com/injectors.htm

"The Rochester division of GM makes the ball type injector for OE
applications as well as the larger flow race types for MSD. These use a
ball and socket arrangement. These have excellent atomization and a wide
spray pattern but are also prone to partial plugging by varnish deposits."

> and the newer versions have the pintle set back slightly to keep
> it from the worst heat.  All the injectors featured in Chevron's before
> & after photos in their Techron brochures are the pintle type.

I've never seen nissan injectors have this problem so something else may be
going on? I know some of the early GM injectors had LOTS of coil failures
that people blamed as being "clogged" so hat may be where this
misinformation started?

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