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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / November 2005

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Brake light and battery light now on all the time.

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rowsdower - 24 Nov 2005 16:43 GMT
I have a 96 Hardbody pickup and just yesterday the Brake light and the
Battery light came on.  All seems well with the truck though.  Any ideas
why this is?
njmodi - 24 Nov 2005 18:22 GMT
Time for a new alternator...

Nirav
JimV - 24 Nov 2005 18:54 GMT
> Time for a new alternator...
>
> Nirav

Yep
Chuck Tribolet - 25 Nov 2005 01:32 GMT
Why would an alternator problem cause the brake light to come on?

And the Battery light could also be the voltage regulator.  Or a loose fan belt.  Or a
bad connection at the alternator or voltage regulator.

The Battery light indicates that you running the truck off the battery.  SOMETHING
is causing the alternator to not put out enough juice.

If the lights start to look dim, get it home pronto.  Carry jumper cables.  If
you end up stranded, you might be able to put enough charge on from the other
car to get you home.

Now the brake light:  Could be the sensor, could be the wiring.  You'll need the
manual to find the sensors.  There's probably one that measures pressure differenential
between front and rear circuits, one that tells you the hand brake is on, and maybe some
more, perhaps related to ABS.  You can generally disconnect them without causing harm.
I had a truck where you could disconnect all the brake sensors and the light would still
come on in long right-hand corners.  I presume the wiring was chafed through somewhere
and grounding to the body, but I'll be durned if I could ever find it.  It's not safety issue
because the short to gound is current limited by the light bulb.

Check the voltage at the battery with a
>> Time for a new alternator...
>>
>> Nirav
>
> Yep
rowsdower - 25 Nov 2005 02:03 GMT
> Why would an alternator problem cause the brake light to come on?
>
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>>
>> Yep

I think when both lights come on it is code for an alternator problem.  I
read that somewhere and I wanted to check with people who might know
something.  I looked at it today and right above the alternator is a
small hose which I believe has antifreeze in it.  It is leaking at the
clamp and there is a slow drip right on the wire connector on the
alternator.  I think that is what damaged my alternator.  I'm glad I saw
it now before the hose completely cracked.  I can't complain though.  
120,000 miles later and the truck runs fantastic without any majore
repairs.  Thank for the help all.
Chuck Tribolet - 26 Nov 2005 02:11 GMT
The slippery antifreeze could very easily be causing the belt to slip.
Fix the leak, then hose it all down with fresh water and let it dry.
If that doesn't fix it, try some belt dressing to increase the traction.

>>>> Time for a new alternator...
>>>>
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> 120,000 miles later and the truck runs fantastic without any majore
> repairs.  Thank for the help all.
Steve T - 28 Nov 2005 02:04 GMT
> The slippery antifreeze could very easily be causing the belt to slip.

Wouldn't make the light come on with a nissan.

> Fix the leak, then hose it all down with fresh water and let it dry.
> If that doesn't fix it, try some belt dressing to increase the traction.

Then go buy a new belt to replace the one ruined by putting "dressing" on it
and replace the alternator..

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JimV - 25 Nov 2005 02:37 GMT
Because of the antilock brakes. The controller has likely detected a
voltage problem. You are right that it could be anything related to the
alternator, but it usually is the alt itself. Or maybe a coincidence,
but again, most likely a failing alternator.

-jim

> Why would an alternator problem cause the brake light to come on?
>
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>>
>>Yep
Jim - 25 Nov 2005 05:07 GMT
I had a Sentra with the same problem (was the alternator).  The reason
they both come on, looking at the wiring diagram (from memory--not going
to dig it out again for this)  is a diode miswired into the system.
Diodes are usually used in a bank of lights, where you want one power
source to light up all the lights (like when you first turn your key,
but don't start your engine), but will cause each individual light to
come one separately from an alternate source of power (provided in a
makfunction).  I don't know why they stay with that circuit, but they do.

Jim

> Why would an alternator problem cause the brake light to come on?
>
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>>
>>Yep
gmburns@gmail.com - 26 Nov 2005 08:30 GMT
It very well may be the alternator, but check the belt tension first. I
had the same lights come on and it was a loose belt.
Steve T - 28 Nov 2005 02:03 GMT
> Why would an alternator problem cause the brake light to come on?

because Nissan wires their cars this way.

> And the Battery light could also be the voltage regulator.

So? It's internal so you have to replace the alternator anyway.

> Or a loose fan
> belt.

Nope, the alternator light doesn't come on unless the alternator stops
working, a slipping belt won't trigger the light.

> Or a bad connection at the alternator or voltage regulator.

Nope, a bad connection would make the light NOT come on.

> The Battery light indicates that you running the truck off the battery.
> SOMETHING is causing the alternator to not put out enough juice.

A dead alternator.

> Now the brake light:  Could be the sensor, could be the wiring.

It's the alternator..

> You'll
> need the
> manual to find the sensors.  There's probably one that measures pressure
> differenential between front and rear circuits,

Nope..

> You can generally disconnect them without
> causing harm.

LOL!

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