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1993 Nissan Primera spark plugs

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ian lincoln - 07 Feb 2006 18:16 GMT
All manuals refer to plugs changing beween june 1993 and earlier and june
1993 onwards.  So i don't actually know what type of plugs to use.  Nissan
Uk recommend Champion plugs.  Most suppliers have NGK.
Steve T - 08 Feb 2006 05:37 GMT
> All manuals refer to plugs changing beween june 1993 and earlier and june
> 1993 onwards.  So i don't actually know what type of plugs to use.  Nissan
> Uk recommend Champion plugs.

You're kidding right?

> Most suppliers have NGK.

Which is what you should use.

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ian lincoln - 08 Feb 2006 14:23 GMT
K reg nissan 2.0 slx.

Currently using NGK BKR5EY
but BKR6EY also a possibility depending on pre june or post june 93.

>> All manuals refer to plugs changing beween june 1993 and earlier and june
>> 1993 onwards.  So i don't actually know what type of plugs to use.
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>
> Which is what you should use.
Andy Champ - 08 Feb 2006 19:56 GMT
> K reg nissan 2.0 slx.
>
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>>
>>Which is what you should use.

Well it says here in this Haines manual use Champion Plugs, for single
point injection models RC9MCC and for multi-point RC7YCC.  So you're
right there.

The two types you mention are the NGK ones for the two engines... so...

Look at http://www.ngk.co.uk/ and there's a "Part Finder" button.  You
can tell it you want a Nissan, Primera, year, engine and Lo!  it tells
you what plug to fit.

I imagine the dealer has the same info on paper.

Andy
ian lincoln - 08 Feb 2006 22:10 GMT
same dilemma as  before is it bkr5ey or 6ey.  How do i determine whether i
have multipoint injection or not?

>> K reg nissan 2.0 slx.
SteveB - 08 Feb 2006 23:17 GMT
It probably won't make any difference whether you use BKR5EY or BKR6EY.  I
use the 6's because they're colder and I've advanced the timing.  I've done
this on a '94 2.0 for 5 yrs and a '97 2.0 for 2 yrs with no problems.  The
only time I had problems was a couple of thousand miles after fitting Bosch
plugs with hesitation on light throttle.  Oh, and the Nissan main dealer had
fitted Champions when I bought the '97 which seemed OK until I changed them
for NGKs a few hundred miles later and noticed a small improvement in
responsiveness.  I couldn't get the BKR6EY's the last two changes and have
been using V-groove BKR6E plugs with no problems.
ian lincoln - 09 Feb 2006 00:23 GMT
I've been to several independent garages and asked about tune ups and they
all say the same thing, can't.

With my old mini i used to adjust the gaps of the spark plugs with a feeler
gauge.  The timing was checked with a stroboscope.  They keep saying its all
handled by engine management now but why would it be bad at cold starting?
Especially as it starts fine for a minute then runs rough until warm.  If it
was a normal carb engine i'd say the auto choke was lifting up too early.
As for fuel injection i don't know.

By the way a while ago a whole load of glass fibre came out of the exhaust.
Some say its the muffler some say its the cat.  The cat is made from
platinum but the muffler is probably some sort of wadding such as glass
fibre.  Anyhow since i finally got all that clear from the back the car has
run faster and i went from 20mpg to 25. I wonder if after a few thousand
miles the engine management has detected the change in emissions and this
has somehow affected the timing or mixture or something?

> It probably won't make any difference whether you use BKR5EY or BKR6EY.  I
> use the 6's because they're colder and I've advanced the timing.  I've
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> improvement in responsiveness.  I couldn't get the BKR6EY's the last two
> changes and have been using V-groove BKR6E plugs with no problems.
SteveB - 09 Feb 2006 06:45 GMT
You definitely CAN change the timing on older Primeras but have to do it the
correct way (with a strobe) for the engine management to accept it as legit.
There's plenty of info around for the SR20DE engine, try
http://www.se-r.net/engine/about_timing.html
It's unlikely to fix your problem though.

You can reset the engine management on a 93 just by disconnecting the
battery for 12 hours, that lets it begin relearning.

Your problem could be the exhaust clogged, a temperature sensor telling lies
to the ECU, a clogged up throttle body, HT leads (only use Nissan's), one of
the emissions control valves stuck, again there's info on such SR20DE
matters on the site above and others.
Steve T - 09 Feb 2006 05:51 GMT
> same dilemma as  before is it bkr5ey or 6ey.  How do i determine whether i
> have multipoint injection or not?

It's not enough difference to worry about. If you drive the car in town and
easy, use the 5's as they are slightly hotter. If you drive it hard or for
extended periods at higher speeds, use the 6's.

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Andy Champ - 09 Feb 2006 20:26 GMT
> same dilemma as  before is it bkr5ey or 6ey.  How do i determine whether i
> have multipoint injection or not?

Count the injectors?

Alternatively, look around for something saying SR20Di (single point) or
SR20DE or SR20De (multipoint).  And if you find GA16DS or GA16DE, you've
been sold a pup.  They are the 1.6 engines.  It'll say in the owners
handbook, if you have one, and may well be on the ID plate under the bonnet.

Andy
Steve T - 09 Feb 2006 05:49 GMT
> Well it says here in this Haines manual use Champion Plugs, for single
> point injection models RC9MCC and for multi-point RC7YCC.  So you're
> right there.

LOL, haynes manual?

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Andy Champ - 09 Feb 2006 20:21 GMT
>>Well it says here in this Haines manual use Champion Plugs, for single
>>point injection models RC9MCC and for multi-point RC7YCC.  So you're
>>right there.
>
> LOL, haynes manual?

Gee don't you just *love* these helpful comments?

It was 99p in Oxfam, and it's served me fairly well. If you have some
particular problem with these, or recommendations for better manuals we
could get, I'm sure we'd all love to hear them.

BTW How much is the official Nissan manual set?

Andy
Steve T - 10 Feb 2006 05:49 GMT
>>>Well it says here in this Haines manual use Champion Plugs, for single
>>>point injection models RC9MCC and for multi-point RC7YCC.  So you're
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>>
> Gee don't you just *love* these helpful comments?

And posting information from those GARBAGE manuals is helpful?

> It was 99p in Oxfam, and it's served me fairly well.

I suppose if you have no other way of looking up information.

> If you have some
> particular problem with these

They are AWFUL manuals and often have misleading or totally wrong
information and procedures in them.

> or recommendations for better manuals we
> could get, I'm sure we'd all love to hear them.

Get a factory manual.

> BTW How much is the official Nissan manual set?

How much did the car cost? People pay $20,000 USD for a car then bitch about
paying $100 for a manual to know how to service it!

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TFM® - 11 Feb 2006 03:54 GMT
>>>>Well it says here in this Haines manual use Champion Plugs, for single
>>>>point injection models RC9MCC and for multi-point RC7YCC.  So you're
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> How much did the car cost? People pay $20,000 USD for a car then bitch about
> paying $100 for a manual to know how to service it!

$100 for a service manual versus $208 for changing my spark plugs at the
dealership sounds like a good trade.

Then again, I can't even see my spark plugs or any connecting wires on
the V6 3500 in  my '01 Pathfinder.

Maybe that $130 labor is worth it.

In the 70's and 80's I could fix anything on my vehicle.  Now I don't
even know what I'm looking at.

BTW, I drove a 1985
Toyota pickup into the ground at 268,000 miles.(traded out 3 weeks ago
(they "gave" me $500 for trade-in value.  I attribute that to the amount
of beer cans in the back.))

  It had an oil leak that wouldn't quit.  Kept destroying $165
alternators.  I had to get something newer.

I'm at a complete loss now if anything goes wrong.

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Codifus - 20 Mar 2006 04:33 GMT
>>>>> Well it says here in this Haines manual use Champion Plugs, for single
>>>>> point injection models RC9MCC and for multi-point RC7YCC.  So you're
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>
> I'm at a complete loss now if anything goes wrong.

Even more reason to get the factory manual. Working on your car is still
relatively easy, but now it is also far from obvious. On your 01
pathfinder, removing the big plastic shroud that is labelled something
like 3500 V6 or 3.5 etc, will reveal the spark plugs and wires. Without
the factory manual, you can figure it out and most probably break it
while removing it. No problem. It's just a cover with no function other
than making the engine  bay look pretty and to hide the inner workings
of the motor. If you had the factory manual you would know how to remove
it without breaking it.

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