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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / March 2006

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2001 Nissan Sentra - No Power

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bmcdougald@hotmail.com - 28 Feb 2006 18:00 GMT
I am having a problem with my '01 Sentra GXE 1.8L with 145K odometer
miles.  My problem started Sunday evening when I was backing out of a
parking spot when I noticed the car became sluggish and died.  I
cranked the car again and noticed the SES light was on, which wasn't
previously.  The car would idle roughly at 1K RPM and would
intermittently drop to < .5K then back to 1K.  I was able to "limp" the
car home but the car would only gradually get to a speed of about 30 -
35 mph.  If I tried to give it gas, it would decline to about 10 mph.

I live in a rural area about 35 mi from the nearest Nissan dealer, but
only 5 mi. from a Chrslyer dealer that services our minivan.  So, I
limped the car into their shop, getting it to gradual speeds of ~50 mph
this time, but again not being able to apply any real pressure to the
gas pedal.  The Chrysler service tech said he could only do a
preliminary scan as his equip could not do an in-depth scan on my
Nissan.  His initial scan points to the Mass Air Flow sensor/meter
circuit, and the tech said that the part would cause the symptoms I
described if it were bad.  Other than that he could not give me any
other information.  He was leary to tell me to replace the part since
it is $500 from the dealer and may, or, may not remedy my problem.

So, I have purchased a new MAF sensor off eBay for ~$150 from a local
company within 35 mi. of my house and will install it as soon as it
comes in.  If this does not work, what other sensors/parts would cause
these symptoms?  (O2 sensor, MAP sensor, bad injector, ??)  Do parts
houses such as Orielly or Autozone typically lend or rent code readers
capable of pin-pointing such problems on a Nissan automobile?  Also,
does anyone know where to get a service manual for this vehicle?  I
cannot find a Haynes or Chilton manual for this car anywhere.
kegler@bowling.net - 28 Feb 2006 18:37 GMT
>I am having a problem with my '01 Sentra GXE 1.8L with 145K odometer
>miles.  My problem started Sunday evening when I was backing out of a
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>does anyone know where to get a service manual for this vehicle?  I
>cannot find a Haynes or Chilton manual for this car anywhere.

definitely sounds like a MAF sensor but I'm not sure that it needs
replacing.  Did you try and just clean it?  With 145k, it's VERY
likely that you have a dirty MAF as well as a dirty throttle body.

Also, check your plug wires.  One or more could be shorting out. Cheap
item to replace either way.  If they're OEM, it's probably a good idea
to replace them.  Also check your plugs for fouling.

Also, do *not* use carb cleaner to clean the throttle body!  It's too
caustic and will eat away the protective lining in the throttle body
intake.  The throttle body cleaner can also be used to clean the MAF.

And, it could be that the fuel filter  is clogged but I wouldn't think
the SES light would come on because of fuel starvation.

Don't rely on code readers, they don't tell you what's wrong, they
only indicate what's *affected*.  Big difference.
Remco - 01 Mar 2006 20:39 GMT
> >I am having a problem with my '01 Sentra GXE 1.8L with 145K odometer
> >miles.  My problem started Sunday evening when I was backing out of a
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> Don't rely on code readers, they don't tell you what's wrong, they
> only indicate what's *affected*.  Big difference.

Agreed. I've never had to replace one on my Nissan, but on other cars
cleaning usually clears it.

Also check for vacuum hoses that may have fallen off or cracked.
Spray some starter fluid around suspected vaccum hoses and see if the
engine RPM changes. If so, you have a vacuum leak somewhere.

Remco
bmcdougald@hotmail.com - 06 Mar 2006 15:45 GMT
I changed out the Mass Air Flow sensor on Saturday morning, and that
appears to have remedied the bulk of my problem.  The car cranked up
and I drove it out on the open highways around my house.  The car was
very responsive and had good pickup power when I punched the
accelerator.

This morning, however, on my 55 mi. commute to work into Houston, I
detected a slight miss twice early on but it went away, but as I got
into stop and go traffic in the downtown area the car stalled 3 times.
It quickly restarted, but it seems that the car does not want to move
forward at idle speeds.

Is there something else that needs to be reset with the MAF sensor?
Anything else that would be an easy check.
kegler@bowling.net - 06 Mar 2006 18:52 GMT
>I changed out the Mass Air Flow sensor on Saturday morning, and that
>appears to have remedied the bulk of my problem.  The car cranked up
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>Is there something else that needs to be reset with the MAF sensor?
>Anything else that would be an easy check.

did you clean the throttle body intake?
bmcdougald@hotmail.com - 06 Mar 2006 19:03 GMT
No, I will.  Also, on the MAF Sensor, I only replaced the sensor, not
the entire housing.  Should I remove and clean that as well?

I also have not reset the SES light.  I was looking that information up
last night, but someone here at the office pointed out to me that by
disconnecting the battery for 10-15 mins. would cause the clear the SES
light AND possibly reset idle speed settings as well.  Is this correct?

I'm feeling my way around in the dark without my trusty Hanynes/Chilton
manual.  Sad, one isn't available on this year model.

Thanks for the help.
kegler@bowling.net - 06 Mar 2006 20:29 GMT
>No, I will.  Also, on the MAF Sensor, I only replaced the sensor, not
>the entire housing.  Should I remove and clean that as well?

The housing doesn't typically need to be cleaned however, check for
intake obstructions.  If your throttle body is dirty, (which is
probably is), a intake restriction of any type can have a significant
impact on idling and performance.  Just remember to use *throttle body
cleaner*  NOT carb cleaner.  Spray carb cleaner is WAY to caustic for
the plastic coating in the intake body.

>I also have not reset the SES light.  I was looking that information up
>last night, but someone here at the office pointed out to me that by
>disconnecting the battery for 10-15 mins. would cause the clear the SES
>light AND possibly reset idle speed settings as well.  Is this correct?

..possibly.  It depends on why the SES light was tripped.  By law, a
shop cannot reset the light unless they determine it's cause, since
the cause may be emissions related.  That could open a pandoras box
of possible unnecessary repairs if you happen to fall upon the "hunt
and replace" method of technician.  The fact that your car is still
behaving badly is an indication that something is still wrong (or
dirty as the case may be).

I'd recommend cleaning the throttle body and *then* disconnecting the
battery, (but it'll have to be for *at least* 30 minutes, not 10 or
15), then take it for a test drive and see if the light AND the
problems, go away.

>I'm feeling my way around in the dark without my trusty Hanynes/Chilton
>manual.  Sad, one isn't available on this year model.

...personally, I think both of those manuals tell you just enough to
get yourself in trouble.  If you can swing the $$, get the genuine
manual from your local dealer.  They're significantly more
comprehensive and well worth the extra money.

>Thanks for the help.

natch..
 
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