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2001 Pathfinder SES light

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TFM® - 10 Mar 2006 21:12 GMT
I can't remember what was posted about turning SES lights off at Auto
Zone, but mine just came on this afternoon at 48,000 miles.

It runs silky smooth as it always has but the light bothers me.  A
little nagging thing that has me wondering is there an issue with the
engine, or has it reached a set mileage and come on just to get me into
the dealership?

Also (perhaps unrelated) the drivers side rear window quit working at
the exact same time.  Front control nor rear control have any effect.
All other windows fgunction normally.  Any clues or hints on this one?

At least it's stuck in the up position.

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E Meyer - 10 Mar 2006 21:57 GMT
On 3/10/06 3:12 PM, in article DYlQf.46898$_c.17549@tornado.tampabay.rr.com,

> I can't remember what was posted about turning SES lights off at Auto
> Zone, but mine just came on this afternoon at 48,000 miles.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> engine, or has it reached a set mileage and come on just to get me into
> the dealership?

The light has come on a couple of times on my '02 and it was a false alarm
both times. I would get the code out of it and reset the light.  If it is a
real problem the light will be back on in a couple of weeks and you can go
from there.

There is no "set mileage" feature on the engine light.  It only comes on
when it detects a problem.  You can read the light yourself without a
scanner if you don't want to deal with Autozone.  (this is cut-n-paste from
the FSM).

"How to Switch Diagnostic Test Mode

NOTE:
* It is better to count the time accurately with a clock.
* It is impossible to switch the diagnostic mode when an accelerator pedal
position sensor circuit has a malfunction.
* Always ECM returns to Diagnostic Test Mode I after ignition switch is
turned ³OFF².
How to Set Diagnostic Test Mode II (Self-diagnostic Results)

1. Confirm that accelerator pedal is fully released, turn ignition switch
³ON² and wait 3 seconds.
2. Repeat the following procedure quickly five times within 5 seconds.
  1) Fully depress the accelerator pedal.
  2) Fully release the accelerator pedal.
3. Wait 7 seconds, fully depress the accelerator pedal and keep it for
approx. 10 seconds until the MIL starts blinking.
4. Fully release the accelerator pedal.
ECM has entered to Diagnostic Test Mode II (Self-diagnostic results).

Diagnostic Test Mode II ‹ Self-Diagnostic Results

In this mode, the DTC and 1st trip DTC are indicated by the number of blinks
of the MIL. The DTC and 1st trip DTC are displayed at the same time. If the
MIL does not illuminate in diagnostic test mode I (Malfunction warning), all
displayed items are 1st trip DTCs. If only one code is displayed when the
MIL illuminates in diagnostic test mode II (SELF-DIAGNOSTIC RESULTS), it is
a DTC; if two or more codes are displayed, they may be either DTCs or 1st
trip DTCs. DTC No. is same as that of 1st trip DTC. These unidentified codes
can be identified by using the CONSULT-II or GST. A DTC will be used as an
example for how to read a code.

A particular trouble code can be identified by the number of four-digit
numeral flashes. The ³zero² is indicated by the number of ten flashes. The
length of time the 1,000th-digit numeral flashes on and off is 1.2 seconds
consisting of an ON (0.6-second) - OFF (0.6-second) cycle. The 100th-digit
numeral and lower digit numerals consist of a 0.3-second ON and 0.3-second
OFF cycle. A change from one digit numeral to another occurs at an interval
of 1.0-second OFF. In other words, the later numeral appears on the display
1.3 seconds after the former numeral has disappeared.

A change from one trouble code to another occurs at an interval of
1.8-second OFF. In this way, all the detected malfunctions are classified by
their DTC numbers. The DTC ³0000² refers to no malfunction. (See ³TROUBLE
DIAGNOSIS ‹ INDEX², EC-8.)

--------
How to Erase Diagnostic Test Mode II (Self-diagnostic Results):

1. Set ECM in Diagnostic Test Mode II (Self-diagnostic results). Refer to
How to Set Diagnostic Test Mode II (Self-diagnostic Results).
2. Fully depress the accelerator pedal and keep it for more than 10 seconds.
The emission-related diagnostic information has been erased from the backup
memory in the ECM.
3. Fully release the accelerator pedal, and confirm the DTC 0000 is
displayed.

* If the battery is disconnected, the DTC will be lost from the backup
memory after approx 24 hours.
* Be careful not to erase the stored memory before starting trouble
diagnoses."

> Also (perhaps unrelated) the drivers side rear window quit working at
> the exact same time.  Front control nor rear control have any effect.
> All other windows function normally.  Any clues or hints on this one?
>
> At least it's stuck in the up position.

There are only a few possibilities:  fuse, broken wire running between the
door and the truck body, bad switch, bad window motor, wire fell off
somewhere in between, etc.  You'll have to get out the multi-meter and start
probing wires.  Also check the main switch and wiring in the drivers door if
you don't find anything in the back door.
TFM® - 14 Mar 2006 00:23 GMT
> On 3/10/06 3:12 PM, in article DYlQf.46898$_c.17549@tornado.tampabay.rr.com,
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
> "How to Switch Diagnostic Test Mode

What is the MIL light?  I tried this 3 times with no result.

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E Meyer - 14 Mar 2006 00:43 GMT
On 3/13/06 5:23 PM, in article
%9nRf.74151$Fw6.11101@tornado.tampabay.rr.com, "TFM®"
<horndawg@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>> On 3/10/06 3:12 PM, in article DYlQf.46898$_c.17549@tornado.tampabay.rr.com,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> What is the MIL light?  I tried this 3 times with no result.

MIL light is the check-engine light (Malfunction Indicator Light).  It
actually says SES on the light.  I've used this procedure a couple of times
and it works.  It took several tries the first time. They are not kidding
when they suggest you should use a clock with a second hand to time it
precisely.

This is out of the "02 FSM.  Maybe its different for '01?
TFM® - 14 Mar 2006 01:08 GMT
> On 3/13/06 5:23 PM, in article
> %9nRf.74151$Fw6.11101@tornado.tampabay.rr.com, "TFM®"
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>
> This is out of the "02 FSM.  Maybe its different for '01?

Could be.  I counted 1 thousand 1....etc.

Next dilemma is where do I get a clock with a second hand?  My world is
all digital and I have no timers.....

Wait a minute, what about my Polder cooking probe?  Maybe that'll work.

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Chuck Tribolet - 15 Mar 2006 05:53 GMT
FWIW, I haven't seen this in the '01 PF factory service manual.

>> On 3/13/06 5:23 PM, in article
>> %9nRf.74151$Fw6.11101@tornado.tampabay.rr.com, "TFM®"
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
>
> Wait a minute, what about my Polder cooking probe?  Maybe that'll work.
E Meyer - 15 Mar 2006 13:53 GMT
In the '02 book it starts on page EC-89

On 3/14/06 10:53 PM, in article 121f7eu6t8e4862@corp.supernews.com, "Chuck
Tribolet" <triblet@garlic.com> wrote:

> FWIW, I haven't seen this in the '01 PF factory service manual.
>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>>
>> Wait a minute, what about my Polder cooking probe?  Maybe that'll work.
TFM® - 17 Mar 2006 02:45 GMT
> In the '02 book it starts on page EC-89

Ok, an '02 book ain't gonna do me a bit of good.  I have an '01

Should I buy one of those readers / erasers somebody else mentioned for
sale on Ebay?

That'll eliminate the light, but if there *is* a problem it'll come back on.

I've driven it for a week now and there is nothing different.  Fuel
consumption is normal, power is normal and it is as smooth as the day I
bought it.

I was passing someone when the light came on.  I had pushed hard enough
on the accelerator to drop from OD to third gear and was going 85 mph.

I'm hoping a sensor somewhere just had a brain fart and resetting the
light will ease my mind.......or not (if it comes back on)

BTW, before I get chastised about going 85 to pass someone, remember
this if Florida.

People will drive 50 mph in a 60 zone and then haul a.s when you try to
pass them.  I don't know why but it's a real PITA.  I once drove across
the state on state highway 60 (2 lane, no passing) behind an a.shole 
that was going 50 mph.  Every time we'd get to a designated passing area
the sumbitch would speed up to whatever it took to outrun me (1984
Toyota PU 2.4 liter 22R)  Once there was no chance of me passing him,
he'd drop back down to 50.  I wish I'd had a shotgun that day.

Oh, and it's the law here that you have to have a turn signal on at all
times. <G>
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E Meyer - 17 Mar 2006 04:41 GMT
On 3/16/06 7:45 PM, in article
3xoSf.83010$g47.81318@tornado.tampabay.rr.com, "TFM®"
<horndawg@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>> In the '02 book it starts on page EC-89
>
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> Oh, and it's the law here that you have to have a turn signal on at all
> times. <G>

Why don't you just take it to AutoZone and let them turn it off for free?
 
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