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towing wih a 4 cyl. nissan pickup

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SED-93@webtv.net - 13 Mar 2006 03:50 GMT
Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
vehicle!  I run a solo lawn service and I tow a 6 x 12 trailor with 1 to
2 ztrs that the total weight is from 1800 to 3000 pounds. My question is
will a 4 cyl. with AC pull this without damage or running hot and also
would an auto tranny pull it or would I be better off with a stick? I
tow round trip about 30 miles a day, no hills. I really did not want a
stick but will if its better on the truck. Thanks.

"toyota, never again!!!"
R Flowers - 13 Mar 2006 04:21 GMT
> Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
> from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
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>
> "toyota, never again!!!"

Good news! For towing, an automatic transmission is much preferred. The
reason is that it's almost impossible to tow a load and keep the clutch from
slipping excessively.

As for whether your truck should pull that much load, I'll leave up to
others.

-- R Flowers
Chuck Tribolet - 13 Mar 2006 05:31 GMT
>> Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
>> from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
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>
> -- R Flowers

I much prefer towing with a stick.  No clutch problems, and the tranny
doesn't run hot like an automatic.

The OP should check his owner's manual for tow capacity.  3000 pounds
seems on the high side for afour banger.
Wallace - 13 Mar 2006 06:20 GMT
>>> Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
>>> from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
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> The OP should check his owner's manual for tow capacity.  3000 pounds
> seems on the high side for afour banger.

I agree. 3000 sounds like alot for a 4 cylinder engine. The owners manual
should have a section on towing.
If it's rated for that large of a towing capacity, I'd recommend trailer
brakes.
Andy Champ - 13 Mar 2006 20:32 GMT
> Good news! For towing, an automatic transmission is much preferred. The
> reason is that it's almost impossible to tow a load and keep the clutch from
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>
> -- R Flowers

Obviously for this reason all heavy trucks use automatic transmissions.

Not.

Andy
R Flowers - 13 Mar 2006 23:34 GMT
> Obviously for this reason all heavy trucks use automatic transmissions.
>
> Not.
>
> Andy

Regarding the use of manual transmission equipped vehicles for towing loads,
some looking around the internet has caused me to come around to your side
somewhat. I was basing my answer on advice from the Cartalk guys, but it may
turn out that that advice was based on "comfort" rather than on what's
really the best.

Clearly, it would be better to cook a clutch plate rather than an automatic
transmission.

As for the heavy trucks, they do have a different gearing than passenger
vehicles. So starting out, their wheels are barely turning.

-- R Flowers
kbrooksmail@gmail.com - 15 Mar 2006 20:41 GMT
I towed a 2000 pound trailer with my 98 4cyl, MT, Frontier on one
occasion for about 50 miles.  It pulled fine once you got up to speed,
but it barely had enough torque to get going from a dead stop.  It was
especially hard to get started on a hill with the trailer.  You had to
clutch it hard to get it started which would wear out clutches rather
soon.  I would not recommend this truck for pulling a trailer on a
regular basis.
SED-93@webtv.net - 19 Mar 2006 12:22 GMT
Wow! Im really surprised at the not so encouraging towing info but glad
to know others experiences. I pulled up the towing specs, a 4cyl.
frontier, AT or stick was rated at 3500, a V6 frontier was rated a 5000
with the AT and also 3500 with a stick. The Toyota 4 was rated at 3820.
I had found a 2000 XE KC frontier with 5 speed I really liked but am a
little gun shy now. I had a 93 Nissan SE V6 that I towed it with for 90k
miles, AT, with no problems. If I could find one to rent for a day I
would do that before I purchased it. My brother in law has an 88 F150
with a 5 speed and 6 cyl. I was also thinking about but I havr not had
good luck with the Big 3. Nissans are my number one choice. And to the
poster that asked what I did not like about my Tundra dont even get me
started. Toyota dealers suck and the 800 customer support sucks even
worse. I also found out the hard way that any other Toyota dealer does
NOT have to work on a brand new one if you did not purchase it from them
and Toyota will do nothing to help. GRRR I get mad every time I start
thinking about a Toyota or even see one!
willshak - 13 Mar 2006 13:35 GMT
> Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
> from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
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>
>  
The maximum trailer weight on a 97 pickup 2.4 4 cyl. KA24E engine is
3500 lbs, either 2x4 or 4x4 with manual transmission. Maximum tongue
load of 350 lbs.
With A/T, MW is 2000 lbs., 200 lbs.TL.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY

willshak - 13 Mar 2006 18:21 GMT
>> Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
>> from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> load of 350 lbs.
> With A/T, MW is 2000 lbs., 200 lbs.TL.

I might add that Nissan requires the use of trailer brakes when towing
above 1000 lbs.
A sway control device is recommended when towing above 2000 lbs on the
manual transmission 2WD truck, and on the 4WD trucks.
A tandem axle trailer is recommended when towing above 3000 lbs.
Special hitches which include frame reinforcements are required for
towing above 2000 lbs. Do not use axle mounted hitches.
Use safety chains.

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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY

Dino - 14 Mar 2006 23:49 GMT
Our '97 4x4 MT 4 cyl was fairly underpowered.  I would hate to pull anything
with it, esp. with the AC on.  With the AC on and going up hills it seemed
to run fairly warm too.  I think the 2x4 would be better suited to towing.

> Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
> from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> "toyota, never again!!!"
Robert Cohen - 15 Mar 2006 14:12 GMT
re: towing

There's a trailer hitch on my second-owner 2004 6-cylinder automatic,
long bed, crew cab Frontier that isn't super-charged.

I've also worried about towing stuff.

Over what (maximum) weight should  be avoided for this?

I dunno if its radiator is (over-size).for towing.

How big of a (rented/borrowed) travel trailer could I pull with little
worry?
NissTech - 15 Mar 2006 04:15 GMT
you must be kidding , a 4 banger frontier towing 3k lbs!!!

pulling it should not be a problem but stopping it WILL be.

Go buy a full size American truck Like a Chevy or Ford
> Hello, have a question about towing with a 95-99 nissan. I just got out
> from under an 05 Tundra and I have never been happier to be rid of a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> "toyota, never again!!!"
DS - 15 Mar 2006 19:07 GMT
What is the towing capacity of a 4cyl 2.7 turbo diesel? I'm currently
pulling a 1900lb tent trailer with my 95 PF, but I'm thinking of importing a
JDM Terrano with the 2.7TD. Will it be okay? Should it get better mileage
when pulling?

> you must be kidding , a 4 banger frontier towing 3k lbs!!!
>
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>>
>> "toyota, never again!!!"
Robert Cohen - 20 Mar 2006 20:38 GMT
re: Toyota

I had negative experience with '86 Corrolla's AT, and haven't gone back
to their vehicles, despite the Tundra having a high/highest rating and
they're (some Toyotas) being assembled in Ky (?) USA.

But--guess what? Toyota apparently owns/controls most/the bulk of the
HYBRID car patents.

If hybrid is more than a minor part of the future, then so will be
Toyota's hybrid technologies.

Eventually, most people may be driving a hybrid.

I saw a snubbyish Prius yesterday up-close, and ...the Georgia Tech
(sticker) student/faculty
keeps it nice 'n shiny.

I've read that the approximate
$30,000 (?) vehicle is not cost-effective; but this can change as such
things tend to do.
Newsgroup User - 21 Mar 2006 02:43 GMT
> But--guess what? Toyota apparently owns/controls most/the bulk of the
> HYBRID car patents.
Not sure about that - I remember reading that Ford did the Escape Hybrid
without any Toyota patents.
Robert Cohen - 21 Mar 2006 03:28 GMT
re: Toyota is dominant holder of hybrid patents

a quick glance at a yahoo caption search tends to support  that toyota
is the 900 pound hybrid gorilla:

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see.my.sig.4.addr@nowhere.com.invalid - 24 May 2006 14:04 GMT
>re: Toyota
>
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>
>Eventually, most people may be driving a hybrid.

Hell no I won't go!

They can give me a CNG or Hydrogen BURNING car with some damn guts and
range, not a death trap, no 1000lbs of batteries to replace for $2000 in a
couple years!

>I saw a snubbyish Prius yesterday up-close, and ...the Georgia Tech
>(sticker) student/faculty
> keeps it nice 'n shiny.

Well, if they keep putting out ugly little econoboxes only for hybrids we
probably don't have alot to worry about.
On the other hand.. it is the Tasteless 2000's!

>I've read that the approximate
>$30,000 (?) vehicle is not cost-effective; but this can change as such
>things tend to do.

It's going to take more govt. subsidation, which is already happening, and
probably will increase - not that it's the right idea though.
Electric is just plain the wrong choice, even hybrid.
Alcohol is an easier conversion for the world to make, but hydrogen is
probably better for the enviro.  I think we'll see all 3 for a while.
Alcohol will dominate in 3rd & 2nd world countries, where we'll get stuck
with the hybrids, and those in cities will go hydrogen.
Personally, I like CNG, but I'd also like to see oil co's take the long
hard shaft even more!

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