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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / May 2006

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Electrical Problem with 88 Maxima

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trentfullerr@yahoo.com - 29 May 2006 03:59 GMT
Hello,

Looking for some advice here.  Just bought an 88 Maxima that had been
sitting for a while. Had a bad battery so I replaced with a new one.
I've noticed now thought that if I run the air conditioner I can see
the reading of the electronic voltage gauge go down like two notches -
the AC really puts a pull on the electrical system.  If I continue to
run it it will pull all the juice from the battery and car won't start.
I can drive around for days as long as I don't run the air.

Also, AC fan motor only blows and high and will not blow any other
speed.  I know I can take it somewhere and have an electrical check
done.  Just wanted to post here first and hear some opinions.

Thanks

TF
JimV - 29 May 2006 04:57 GMT
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The high speed only is the resistor pack. The A/C problem I'm not sure
about. I would check the alternator output first though.
Remco - 29 May 2006 14:42 GMT
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What do you mean that you "can drive around for days as long as I don't
run the air"? You mean that eventually the car will die regardless?

I'd check the alternator (of course first check belt, connections and
battery but most likely the alternator is the culprit).

Remco
trentfullerr@yahoo.com - 29 May 2006 15:14 GMT
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Thanks for reply.  I meant that as long as I don't turn on the AC I can
drive the car every day and the battery stays charged, car always
starts, etc.  If I run the air the battery quickly gets so low on power
that it won't start the car.

I did have the alternator checked and the test indicated that it was
good.  HOWEVER, the AC was not on when they were doing the test.
Remco - 29 May 2006 16:21 GMT
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> I did have the alternator checked and the test indicated that it was
> good.  HOWEVER, the AC was not on when they were doing the test.

I wonder if perhaps it tends to draw too much current when idling. If
you do a lot of city driving, the engine is often idling:

Not sure on a Maxima, but on most modern cars it has what's called an
ELD (Electronic Load Detector), which detects that something is drawing
more current than the engine idle can normally supply. It tells the
computer to step the RPM up a bit so the battery is not loaded.
It could be that your ELD is defective. Does your engine speed (RPM, if
you have a tach on your dash) go up when you turn on your AC? If you
have a voltmeter, hook it across the battery and progressively turn on
circuits (AC, lights, etc). The voltage should stay around 14.5 Volt or
so with the engine possibly running slightly faster under load.

Remco
trentfullerr@yahoo.com - 29 May 2006 16:27 GMT
Just by watching the the voltage gauge on the dash it seems that at
idle with the AC on full it REALLY pulls the charging system down.
Driving down the road at 60 mph the voltage indicator is at 12 (right
in the center).  When you pull up to red light and stop it moves from
12 down two marks (so say 10).  If you let the car sit and idle for
more that a couple of minutes it will go down four marks.

Autozone had blower motor for $73 bucks.  And they say they can test
alternator on the car so I'll see what happens...
Remco - 29 May 2006 22:06 GMT
> Just by watching the the voltage gauge on the dash it seems that at
> idle with the AC on full it REALLY pulls the charging system down.
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> Autozone had blower motor for $73 bucks.  And they say they can test
> alternator on the car so I'll see what happens...

Sounds like the alternator or regulator (which is often part of the
alternator in most cars).
If you have them do the work, don't let them hose you as an alternator
replacement should take less than one hour.

Remco
trentfullerr@yahoo.com - 30 May 2006 03:42 GMT
Remco,

Put alternator on this evening, problem fixed.  Autozone did a test and
their test device showed bad diode in alternator.  paid $100 for one.
Still need to replace the switch that keeps prevents the blower motor
from blowing on any speed other than high but main problem fixed.
Thanks for the info.

Trent
gary - 30 May 2006 03:54 GMT
On most Nissans, it's not the switch, it's a resistor pack located in
a vent pipe (usually above the passenger feet area).   (Not sure
on that year max, but the symptoms are very consistent.)

Gary K

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Remco - 30 May 2006 04:45 GMT
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Excellent - glad that worked out!
Remco

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