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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / August 2006

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M. Moody - 13 Aug 2006 02:15 GMT
This may be old news to some but please humor me if you can.  I am
considering the new frontier with a 6 speed manual tranny, possibly the
nismo package but if the SE is optioned right. . who knows?  I regret
trading my 94 pathfinder and wondered if the durability of the frontier is
as good as the older Nissan"s.  Any troubles I need to watch for?
T I A
Mark
NissanSalesRep - 13 Aug 2006 15:28 GMT
> This may be old news to some but please humor me if you can.  I am
> considering the new frontier with a 6 speed manual tranny, possibly the
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> T I A
> Mark

You'll be extremely happy with the new Frontier. I would examine if you
really need the NISMo package or if you're wanting it because of the
badging (stickers).
As for your question regarding "any troubles to watch for", rest easy
because it's a great truck. Right now there are great incentives to
take advantage of. Check out www.nissanusa.com.

NissanSalesRep
C. E. White - 14 Aug 2006 13:44 GMT
> This may be old news to some but please humor me if you can.  I am
> considering the new frontier with a 6 speed manual tranny, possibly the
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> T I A
> Mark

I purchased a 2006 Frontier earlier this year. This was my first Japanese
truck after years of experience with Fords. I didn't like the new F150s, and
although we have had very positive experience with Rangers, I wanted
something a little larger. I considered a the Tundra, the Tacoma, and the
Frontier. I ruled out the Tundra as being a poor copy of an F150 (all the
disadvantages of the F150, plus engines that rattles when cold, scuzzy
dealers, and a higher price). I liked the Tacoma, but didn't care for the
local dealer (their attitude was - "this is our price, you are lucky we will
sell you our perfect truck at all") and the prices were all significantly
higher than for a similarly equipped Frontier. The local Nissan dealer was
very cooperative and the truck was equipped like I wanted for a reasonable
price, so I decided to buy the Nissan. However, after six months, I am
having buyers remorse in a big time way - the cab squeaks whenever you go
over any sort of bump, it has been recalled twice, the fuel mileage is no
better than my old F150, the seats are very uncomfortable on a long trip,
and despite having a higher payload rating, it won't carry as much than my
Father's 7 year old Ranger without bottoming out the springs. On the other
hand, if you are interested in drag racing other pick-ups, it is fast
(although the power band is all wrong for a work truck). The factory bed
liner is nice. The truck looks nice. It has the worst oil filter location of
any vehicle I have ever owned. The interior plastic attracts dirt. The rear
seats are almost totally unusable (worse than the jump seats in my Dad's old
Ranger - despite the truck being much larger). In general the underpinnings
of the truck seem wimpy compared to Fords, (suspension parts and frame rails
seem "small"). I have an automatic, and at least so far this has worked
well. I do wish they had a column shift instead of the floor shift and a
console. The console eats up a lot of space and restricts your leg movement.
I really don't understand why everyone seems in love with huge consoles
these days. Is it all because of cup holders and cell phones?

Ed
M. Moody - 14 Aug 2006 16:58 GMT
Thanks!  And I really mean that, No sarcasm intended.  I am sorry that you
seem to be having so much trouble with the truck but it is refreshing to get
a dose of reality injected into the lust of car/truck purchasing.  I still
am considering the truck but now the real use of the truck will make more
sense to me as I inspect it.  This makes the Dakota look a little more
reasonable but I don't like the sharp lines of the body work.  (A personal
preference thing).  And if I am going to get this kind of mileage maybe even
a one or two year old diesel may better serve me, for the price.

Mark

| > This may be old news to some but please humor me if you can.  I am
| > considering the new frontier with a 6 speed manual tranny, possibly the
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|
| Ed
Ed White - 14 Aug 2006 23:45 GMT
> Thanks!  And I really mean that, No sarcasm intended.  I am sorry that you
> seem to be having so much trouble with the truck but it is refreshing to get
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>
> Mark

I am now worried that I was too negative.

The recalls are not a huge deal - something to do with the gas cap, and
new door latches. Mostly they are just irritating. This is not a
completely new vehicle, so I would have thought these sort of things
would have been sorted out in the first model year. The fact that the
Frontier was a second year model was an advantage in my mind. I've had
plenty of experiences with first year models from other manufacturers,
and was looking forward to a more mature design. I guess I was
expecting too much.

I left out some of the good stuff. The electronic limited slip works
really well on mud. The bed height is perfect for my use. The size of
the pick-up box is well matched to the load carrying capacity. The head
lights are good. The controls are good. The brakes are good. I really
like the tires that came on the truck. The 4x4 system works well. The
truck is reasonably quiet on the highway. The tow hitch works well. I
have not had any problems related to the drivetrain.

The oil filter location is a big pet peeve becasue I like to change my
own oil. The cabin squeak is irritating, but I am hoping the dealer can
fix it when I take the truck in to get the recall repairs done (this
week). I am not sure what can be done about the seats. I am a big guy
and the seat shape is poorly matched to my butt. They look great and
feel great at first, but after an hour in the truck, my butt is sore.
The seats look like something that should be in a 350Z, not a truck. I
don't really understand the plastic. It has that soft touch sort of
feel like some laptops, but apparently it has a soft touch for dust
too. I had no problem wiping dust off the dash of my old Ford. For this
Nissan, the dust just seems to cling like glue to some of the plastic
(but not all of it - it is weird). The engine is very powerful, but
very peaky. If you are willing to floor the accelerator, the truck will
go like a scalded cat. However, I really preferred the low down grunt
of the six cylinder in my old F150. If the Frontier got a lot better
gas mileage, I'd be OK with the lack of low end torque, but the gas
mileage is only a little better than my old F150. The F150 was over 700
lbs heavier and larger (more air resistance), yet got within a couple
of mpg of the same mileage under similar conditions (15 vs 17). Oh
yeah, I forgot to mention the steering - the feel is good, but the
truck is sensitive on the highway and it has the turning radius of an
aircraft carrier. I could wheel the old F150 (a SWB model) into parking
spaces with ease. I often find myself needing to have to back up to
line the Frontier up with a parking space. However, I had this exact
same complaint with the Tundra, the Tacoma, and the Colorado I test
drove. I expect a large turning radii with LWB F250's, not with light
duty trucks. My Expedition can easily turn inside the Frontier. I wish
I had test driven a late model F150 for comparison purposes, but
frankly, I hate the new F150s and wouldn't even consider them (although
I could have bought one for less than the Frontier).

Ed
Butch Davis - 15 Aug 2006 00:39 GMT
I doubt you'll be able to buy a one or two year old diesel truck for as
little as the real selling price of a new Frontier.  Diesels are in high
demand due to fuel cost and they are all on the heavier duty chassis.

The Fronty is a nice little truck, IMO.  I have a Titan and love it and the
300+ HP engine.  Of course all that HP burns fuel but I love the power.

Butch
> Thanks!  And I really mean that, No sarcasm intended.  I am sorry that you
> seem to be having so much trouble with the truck but it is refreshing to
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> |
> | Ed
~Poorboy~ - 18 Aug 2006 00:19 GMT
I purchased my Nissan Frontier SE in May. I've been averaging 22mpg since I
bought it. I have the two wheel drive version with the 6-speed manual six
cylinder. It rides rough and the steering is very touchy. I would suggest
you take an extended test drive in the truck over varying roads at different
speeds. The truck has plenty of power. I do agree about the seats. They
aren't the most comfortable especially for such a stiff riding vehicle. I
will tolerate these minor annoyances until my wife's vehicle is paid for,
then I will probably go back to a larger more refined riding truck. Gas
mileage was an influence in my choice of this truck. But www.fueleconomy.gov 
shows that the 4WD version gets considerably less than the 2WD version, if
that is what you're looking at. This is a very informative site about real
world fuel economy.
I'm pleased with the overall quality of the truck, it's just a little too
rough riding for my taste. I wish I had taken a considerably longer test
drive, especially on rough roads. I would have probably kept my 96
Silverado.

Thanks!  And I really mean that, No sarcasm intended.  I am sorry that you
seem to be having so much trouble with the truck but it is refreshing to get
a dose of reality injected into the lust of car/truck purchasing.  I still
am considering the truck but now the real use of the truck will make more
sense to me as I inspect it.  This makes the Dakota look a little more
reasonable but I don't like the sharp lines of the body work.  (A personal
preference thing).  And if I am going to get this kind of mileage maybe even
a one or two year old diesel may better serve me, for the price.

Mark

| > This may be old news to some but please humor me if you can.  I am
| > considering the new frontier with a 6 speed manual tranny, possibly the
| > nismo package but if the SE is optioned right. . who knows?  I regret
| > trading my 94 pathfinder and wondered if the durability of the frontier
is
| > as good as the older Nissan"s.  Any troubles I need to watch for?
| > T I A
| > Mark
|
| I purchased a 2006 Frontier earlier this year. This was my first Japanese
| truck after years of experience with Fords. I didn't like the new F150s,
and
| although we have had very positive experience with Rangers, I wanted
| something a little larger. I considered a the Tundra, the Tacoma, and the
| Frontier. I ruled out the Tundra as being a poor copy of an F150 (all the
| disadvantages of the F150, plus engines that rattles when cold, scuzzy
| dealers, and a higher price). I liked the Tacoma, but didn't care for the
| local dealer (their attitude was - "this is our price, you are lucky we
will
| sell you our perfect truck at all") and the prices were all significantly
| higher than for a similarly equipped Frontier. The local Nissan dealer was
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| (although the power band is all wrong for a work truck). The factory bed
| liner is nice. The truck looks nice. It has the worst oil filter location
of
| any vehicle I have ever owned. The interior plastic attracts dirt. The
rear
| seats are almost totally unusable (worse than the jump seats in my Dad's
old
| Ranger - despite the truck being much larger). In general the
underpinnings
| of the truck seem wimpy compared to Fords, (suspension parts and frame
rails
| seem "small"). I have an automatic, and at least so far this has worked
| well. I do wish they had a column shift instead of the floor shift and a
| console. The console eats up a lot of space and restricts your leg
movement.
| I really don't understand why everyone seems in love with huge consoles
| these days. Is it all because of cup holders and cell phones?
|
| Ed
bcornel - 17 Aug 2006 21:16 GMT
2005 Frontier with 30k miles and nary a single problem.  only gripe is
gas tank cover doesn't latch too well.  steel clip for a retaining
latch seems to constantly "spring."  otherwise, great truck.

>This may be old news to some but please humor me if you can.  I am
>considering the new frontier with a 6 speed manual tranny, possibly the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>T I A
>Mark
 
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