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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / September 2006

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Problem with Navigation system

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Skanda - 03 Sep 2006 09:49 GMT
Hi,

I have a Nissan Primera (2006) with integrated navigation system.
Everytime this system starts a safety warning is issued and I have to press
"enter".

By now I know this safety warning by heart adn I'm getting tired of having to
press "enter" everytime I turn the ignition.
Is there a way of bypassing this safety warning?

I contacted Navtech, the creators of the navigitional software, but there no
answer from their part. They don't react to my questions.
Oso - 03 Sep 2006 15:45 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> no
> answer from their part. They don't react to my questions.

I found this out from the dealership so I could cancel my servicing warning.

Ignition on with stereo off

Hold the Info buttonand turn the volume dial anti-clockwise.

This will get you into the control system.  I was able to reset my warning
so maybe this will help you.

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amstaffs@home.com - 03 Sep 2006 16:14 GMT
"Oso" <osobear(beard)@(moustache)ntlworld.com>  quipped:

>> Hi,
>>
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>This will get you into the control system.  I was able to reset my warning
>so maybe this will help you.

..I doubt that you can disable the warning. The warning is there to
remind you to not fiddle with the nav while driving.  It's legalese to
protect the manufacturers butt from a lawsuit if you plow into a tree
whilst looking for a porn shop POI.  ;-)
Skanda - 03 Sep 2006 16:58 GMT
> "Oso" <osobear(beard)@(moustache)ntlworld.com>  quipped:
>
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>protect the manufacturers butt from a lawsuit if you plow into a tree
>whilst looking for a porn shop POI.  ;-)

Great,

I could get into the control system of my car, thx for info.
But there was no option to turn of the safety warning.

If this warning is legally a must, than this warning makes its more dangerous
than no warning.
If start my car I usually don't wait for the safety warning to appear and I
drive off, when I'm drivin I notice the safety warning and press enter. That is
a time that I'm paying less attention to the road, then I would be when there
would be no safety warning.

But anyway, my problem still persists. Isn't there an option to get into the
"control system" of the navigation?

thx allready for the additional info
Terry W. - 03 Sep 2006 23:58 GMT
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> But anyway, my problem still persists. Isn't there an option to get
> into the "control system" of the navigation?
<Snip>

There IS a way of getting into the Navigation system of a Primera - I just
wish I knew what it was !!!   My dealer won't tell me !

Terry W
Skanda - 05 Sep 2006 09:45 GMT
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>> But anyway, my problem still persists. Isn't there an option to get
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>
>Terry W

Well I went to my dealership this morning for something totally different. I
had a disturbing rattling sound on my front door, but that's fixed now.
Anyway, I asked if there was a way of removing the safety warning and their
answer was very clear: "There is a way but we can't remove the warning for you,
because of legal issue with the vendor of the navigation system"

Well that brings me back to the starting point and I will probably have to
bother navteq several times to get an answer.
Oso - 05 Sep 2006 18:32 GMT
>><Snip>
>>> But anyway, my problem still persists. Isn't there an option to get
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> Well that brings me back to the starting point and I will probably have to
> bother navteq several times to get an answer.

I assume you are in Britain so you have cover through the Sale of Goods Act.
Any electronic good is supposed to last at least one year, if it has not
been misused.  Thus you could threaten the dealer who sold you the
Navigation system that they have a duty of care to provide serviceable
goods.  SoGA is quite clear that it is the vendors responsibility to sell
you goods of a saleable quality.

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Skanda - 05 Sep 2006 18:50 GMT
>>><Snip>
>>>> But anyway, my problem still persists. Isn't there an option to get
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>goods.  SoGA is quite clear that it is the vendors responsibility to sell
>you goods of a saleable quality.

Actually I live in Belgium :-)
Skanda - 06 Sep 2006 11:21 GMT
>>>><Snip>
>>>>> But anyway, my problem still persists. Isn't there an option to get
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>>
>Actually I live in Belgium :-)

Well,

today I found out that NAVTEQ is only the supplier of the maps, the software
for the navigation system is designed by another company.
So now I have to quests:
1. Find the developping company for the navigational software
2. Get rid of the safety warning
:-)
Chuck.K - 06 Sep 2006 15:08 GMT
>  today I found out that NAVTEQ is only the supplier of the maps, the software
> for the navigation system is designed by another company.
> So now I have to quests:
> 1. Find the developping company for the navigational software
> 2. Get rid of the safety warning
> :-)

Nissan corporate is the company you will have to deal with, as they
are the ones who REQUIRE that the warning be there.  It's a legal
issue for them and one that they will not allow to be 'end run', at
least if they have anything to say about it.

I don't know about the Euro spec vehicles, but on the US spec ones
with NAV, you'd have to get into the hard code to bypass the legal
screen.  No dealer can do it and there is no simple way to do it.
amstaffs@home.com - 08 Sep 2006 03:02 GMT
Chuck.K <noway@nohow.com>  quipped:

>>  today I found out that NAVTEQ is only the supplier of the maps, the software
>> for the navigation system is designed by another company.
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>with NAV, you'd have to get into the hard code to bypass the legal
>screen.  No dealer can do it and there is no simple way to do it.

I have an 03 LS430 and it's navigation system also has that annoying
warning that won't go away until you press "Accept".
 
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