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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / December 2006

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"Throttle Service"

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arugulasrevenge@gmail.com - 19 Dec 2006 20:35 GMT
Can someone please tell explain what a "Throttle Service" is?  What
does it entail and what will happen if I don't have one done?  My
dealer recommended one for $90 on a '05 Altima with 37K miles.  I'm not
having problems with the car, they just recommended it when I brought
it in for my oil change.  I don't recall having throttle services done
on my prior vehicles (and I've had two other Nissans).
Willshak - 19 Dec 2006 20:30 GMT
> Can someone please tell explain what a "Throttle Service" is?  What
> does it entail and what will happen if I don't have one done?  My
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>  

It probably consists of spraying some cleaner in the throttle body.
Make sure they rotate the air in your tires at the same time.

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Butch Davis - 19 Dec 2006 22:43 GMT
Can you spell "rip off"?
>> Can someone please tell explain what a "Throttle Service" is?  What
>> does it entail and what will happen if I don't have one done?  My
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> It probably consists of spraying some cleaner in the throttle body.
> Make sure they rotate the air in your tires at the same time.
JimV - 19 Dec 2006 23:04 GMT
> Can someone please tell explain what a "Throttle Service" is?  What
> does it entail and what will happen if I don't have one done?  My
> dealer recommended one for $90 on a '05 Altima with 37K miles.  I'm not
> having problems with the car, they just recommended it when I brought
> it in for my oil change.  I don't recall having throttle services done
> on my prior vehicles (and I've had two other Nissans).

$90 is a ripoff for 10 mins of work, but it should be done periodically
or the throttle may start to stick.
arugulasrevenge@gmail.com - 20 Dec 2006 02:29 GMT
Is it something that an average person could do, such as adding a
cleaner or squirting a cleaner on something?  Also, is it something
that only a Nissan dealer can do? I can get better prices at a
non-Nissan dealer in the area on everything else that isn't
Nissan-specific.

> arugulasreve...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Can someone please tell explain what a "Throttle Service" is?  What
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> > on my prior vehicles (and I've had two other Nissans).$90 is a ripoff for 10 mins of work, but it should be done periodically
> or the throttle may start to stick.
Butch Davis - 20 Dec 2006 15:28 GMT
It is not necessary to clean the throttle.  This is hype BS.  Forget about
it.

How many times have you had a throttle stick?  If you're like most of us the
answer is "never".  In the highly unlikely event that it should happen take
it to your dealer.

BTW, is it a recommended maintenance service in your owener's manual?  No,
then don't do it.

Butch
> Is it something that an average person could do, such as adding a
> cleaner or squirting a cleaner on something?  Also, is it something
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>> > for 10 mins of work, but it should be done periodically
>> or the throttle may start to stick.
JimV - 21 Dec 2006 04:07 GMT
> It is not necessary to clean the throttle.  This is hype BS.  Forget about
> it.
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>>>> for 10 mins of work, but it should be done periodically
>>> or the throttle may start to stick.

Funny, I've fixed dozens of dirty, sticking throttles. It's not a big
problem, but it can keep it from returning all the way to idle. 10
minutes with a can of throttle body cleaner and an old tooth brush is
all it takes.
arugulasrevenge@gmail.com - 21 Dec 2006 13:50 GMT
Okay, thanks everyone.  I'll pass and save my $90.
Willy - 21 Dec 2006 14:05 GMT
> Can someone please tell explain what a "Throttle Service" is?  What
> does it entail and what will happen if I don't have one done?  My
> dealer recommended one for $90 on a '05 Altima with 37K miles.  I'm not
> having problems with the car, they just recommended it when I brought
> it in for my oil change.  I don't recall having throttle services done
> on my prior vehicles (and I've had two other Nissans).

The dealer price is a little high, but I would suggest having it done at
least by 60K.

What I've always noticed when it needs done is the gas pedal (assuming it's
not drive by wire) will be a little bit stiff when you first push to
accelerate.  Sometimes you will also notice the car not returning to the
regular idle RPM's.

I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee once that would stick terribly if I didn't have
it cleaned at least every 30K.

Willy
Butch Davis - 21 Dec 2006 15:00 GMT
If I ever had a sticking throttle body I'd have to wonder if the air cleaner
element is properly installed and sealed.  If I had to clean it every 30K
miles or so I'd be looking for leaks in the intake system upstream of the
throttle body.

An exception to my position is with aftermarket air cleaner systems that are
owener cleanable/servicable.  Typically these cleaners have a foam
precleaner requireing "oiling" after washing the filter element.  Most
owners tend to "over oil"  these systems thus causing oil to enter the
intake system which can foul O2 sensors and possible necessitate throttle
body cleaning.

Of course, YMMV.

Butch

>> Can someone please tell explain what a "Throttle Service" is?  What
>> does it entail and what will happen if I don't have one done?  My
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> Willy
Stephen H - 24 Dec 2006 01:26 GMT
It is a good service on some cars in some environments, Although Fords put
"do not clean" decals on the tb; they are the ones that benefit the most
from a cleaning (followed be jeeps ;)  But to the OP, pass.
The build up is caused by temp differences I believe (I'd have to go
upstairs and get an ase book to validate that statement.)

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> If I ever had a sticking throttle body I'd have to wonder if the air
> cleaner element is properly installed and sealed.  If I had to clean it
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>> Willy
Butch Davis - 24 Dec 2006 14:39 GMT
Stephen,

Your qualifications are clearly way above the norm so I wont doubt your
words.  However, I wonder why Nissan does not recommend TB cleaning as part
of the periodic services.

Butch
> It is a good service on some cars in some environments, Although Fords put
> "do not clean" decals on the tb; they are the ones that benefit the most
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>>> Willy
Stephen H - 24 Dec 2006 17:39 GMT
Realistically, I don't recall that anyone of them do. It was a add-on
service at my last shop (this one too but not pushed as hard) On two
occasions I recall fixing the car with a throttle service (both Fords) One
was old enough to have a idle setting and as I removed the gunk the idle
went high- I had to readjust the idle to factory specs.
Along with the throttle clean is the combustion chamber cleaning- and some
cars need this also. carbon can build up on/around the calves and combustion
chamber and cause some problems. If a car is having a pinging problem this
is one thing to look at/try.
To see if toy need a tb cleaning; open the tb and with a strong flash light
look for build up around and past the plate. if its clean to slightly dark,
and the throttle don't stick- no issue Got gunk? A tooth brush and cleaner
and scrub it.

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Stephen W. Hansen
ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
ASE Undercar Specialist
Currently working at a Subaru Dealership

http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm
http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm

> Stephen,
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>>>> Willy
 
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