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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / April 2007

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engine swap Altima

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Hawkeye - 21 Apr 2007 16:40 GMT
I have just bought a 1994 Altima. The odometer says 120,000 plus
miles. The dealer told me they swapped in an engine with 67,000 miles.

This car is a sweet runner and I like it........ my only question is
how do I verify the engine change claim. Would there be matching
numbers to check?

The owners manual shows numbers on the motor and the front grill
area......... should they be the same?

Maybe I should just enjoy my new ride......... but there is that
nagging question to verify a claim. Any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Hawkeye
Hawkeye - 24 Apr 2007 17:30 GMT
> I have just bought a 1994 Altima. The odometer says 120,000 plus
> miles. The dealer told me they swapped in an engine with 67,000 miles.
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> Hawkeye

No one knows I guess. Any hints where I could verify the engine swap
claim?

Hawkeye
William Michael Greene - 24 Apr 2007 21:37 GMT
I would say it might be obvious to check bolting. For instance engine mounts
bolts should show some indication that they have been removed and replaced.

>> I have just bought a 1994 Altima. The odometer says 120,000 plus
>> miles. The dealer told me they swapped in an engine with 67,000 miles.
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> Hawkeye
frederick - 26 Apr 2007 00:09 GMT
> I would say it might be obvious to check bolting. For instance engine mounts
> bolts should show some indication that they have been removed and replaced.

I changed an engine about 6 weeks ago, and after reading the post went
and looked to see what signs of the engine change might be visible.
The engine mount bolts actually don't look like they've been touched.
The bolt head shape doesn't allow a socket to touch the paint on the
mount, so there's nothing to see there.  Likewise the bolts on the bell
housing and a few others on support brackets, bell housing inspection
plate etc - they don't look like they've ever been touched.
I didn't take any special care to ensure that hose clamps lined up with
creases in the hoses the same, but it just seemed neater to line them
up, so there's nothing to see there either.
I know that I knurled exhaust flange stud bolts a bit, but after the
engine has been run for a couple of weeks, the shine on the knurled bits
have flattened off and darkened down so it's hard to see anything there
either, and at ~100k, then the exhaust might have been worked on anyway.
It seemed neater to reuse wiring loom cable ties, most of them were easy
to open, the replacement engine came with loom intact but cut, so there
was a spare for any tie that I damaged.  So there's no sign there.
Perhaps someone in a hurry might just cut them and use standard cable ties.
The car I did was a fwd so I had to remove the axles, so I could see
that the axle nuts have been removed and replaced and the old split pins
reused, but again at 100k they might have been removed for work on CV
joints/boots anyway.
The single and IMO most definitive sign is that there are minor paint
scrapes on the bottom of the sump - not from rocks or damage that could
have likely been done when the motor was in the car.  These probably
happened before I got the replacement engine.  The wreckers tend to
lower the engines on an old tyre or similar to support them, but the
sump still bottoms out on the ground, and probably twist a little as
they are lowered or lifted.
Apart from that, the engine and trans housing is a lot cleaner than I'd
expect on a car of it's age/mileage - but there wasn't any real need to
clean it that well - just me being a bit fussy.
I think that it could be very hard to tell.
Hawkeye - 27 Apr 2007 15:09 GMT
> > I would say it might be obvious to check bolting. For instance engine mounts
> > bolts should show some indication that they have been removed and replaced.
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> clean it that well - just me being a bit fussy.
> I think that it could be very hard to tell.

Thank you both for the info.........William Michael Greene you were
very detailed and really gave me a valuable comment.

Thanks again to both of you,

Hawkeye
Hawkeye - 27 Apr 2007 15:17 GMT
> > > I would say it might be obvious to check bolting. For instance engine mounts
> > > bolts should show some indication that they have been removed and replaced.
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Thank you both for the info.........Thank you both for the
info.........William Michael Greene you werevery detailed and really
gave me a valuable comment.

> Thanks again to both of you,

==============SORRY TEXT SHOULD HAVE READ*********************
frederick - you were very detailed and really gave me a valuable
comment.

> Thanks again to both of you,
>
> Hawkeye
 
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