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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / May 2007

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2001 Pathfinder electric window Issue

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The Fat Man® - 28 Apr 2007 04:12 GMT
I bought it used with 45,000 miles on it.  It now has 78,000 miles.

The rear windows immediately developed ghosts in the electrical system...I
don't use them anymore.

Most recently the driver's side front window has forgotten what "Auto"
means.  If I do an 'auto' down, it only goes about 3 inches at a time.
Auto UP gets me 3 inches up, then immediate retraction.

At this point I have to pull the switch up to 'auto', then pull it up again
to the 'manual' position in order to get the window to fully raise.

Any hints?

TFM®
D. - 29 Apr 2007 19:45 GMT
i'm no mechanic but this has to
be a relay problem . the relay contols
the operation  of your windows.
find the relay and replace it.
where it is , i have no idea.
         hope it helps.
                  d.
Chuck Tribolet - 29 Apr 2007 22:22 GMT
There's a current sensor that detects that the motor is requiring high current.
This is so when your kid's arm is caught in the window, the window doesn't cut
his arm off.  I suspect that something's binding, and making the motor work
hard.  I'd pull the trim off the door and lube everything in sight.

MMM., just read the '01 PF manual -- it appears it has a position sensor and limit switch rather
than just watching the load.  Same effect, more expensive, maybe a little more
effective.  Anyway, it could be the limit switch or encoder.  There's a procedure
in the service manual to reset the limit switch, I'd do that too while I have the door trim off.

>I bought it used with 45,000 miles on it.  It now has 78,000 miles.
>
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>
> TFM®
Telstar Electronics - 01 May 2007 12:43 GMT
> I bought it used with 45,000 miles on it.  It now has 78,000 miles.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> TFM®

Sounds like there may be a circuit breaker involved here. If so
eqipped, it could sense unusually high currents (problem with motor(s)
or severe biding of mechanism) and turn on and off... causing the
window to operate in jumps.

www.telstar-electronics.com
Chuck Tribolet - 04 May 2007 04:29 GMT
Looking at the service manual (I have an '01 PF), there is a circuit breaker (M145)
but it appears to not be the self-reseting type. In the troubleshooting chart it's only
mention in the "none of the windows work" section.

The OP's symptoms map to:

Check the switch for that window.
Check the encoder and limit switch for that window.

Interestingly, my PF has done something similar a couple of times the last few days --
drivers window gets 2/3 up on auto, then there's a noise and it backs off a couple of inches.
I suspect something is binding.

On Apr 27, 10:12 pm, "The Fat Man®" <fatf...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> I bought it used with 45,000 miles on it.  It now has 78,000 miles.
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> TFM®

Sounds like there may be a circuit breaker involved here. If so
eqipped, it could sense unusually high currents (problem with motor(s)
or severe biding of mechanism) and turn on and off... causing the
window to operate in jumps.

www.telstar-electronics.com
The Fat Man® - 06 May 2007 04:59 GMT
> Looking at the service manual (I have an '01 PF), there is a circuit
> breaker (M145)
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> off a couple of inches.
> I suspect something is binding.

No noise, no binding, it just doesn't seem to work right at all when it's
warm outside.  I live in the Tampa, Fl area, so it's warm more often than
cold.  BTW, when I say warm, I mean 90f and above.

I've also had trouble with the rear window switches, so maybe it's just a
switch issue.

TFM®
JimV - 06 May 2007 05:20 GMT
> Interestingly, my PF has done something similar a couple of times the last few days --
> drivers window gets 2/3 up on auto, then there's a noise and it backs off a couple of inches.
> I suspect something is binding.

This is because it's forgotten where the top is. There's a learn
procedure in the SM.
The Fat Man® - 06 May 2007 16:32 GMT
>> Interestingly, my PF has done something similar a couple of times
>> the last few days -- drivers window gets 2/3 up on auto, then
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> This is because it's forgotten where the top is. There's a learn
> procedure in the SM.

Ok, I'll bite, where can one get a service manual?

TFM®
JimV - 06 May 2007 16:57 GMT
>>> Interestingly, my PF has done something similar a couple of times
>>> the last few days -- drivers window gets 2/3 up on auto, then
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> TFM®

The cheapest way is to buy a one day subscription to the Nissan
Publications site and download it.
Chuck Tribolet - 08 May 2007 02:30 GMT
It only happens occasionally, so are you saying that it's occasionally forgetful.

It really does sound like something's binding just before  it reverses, but I'll take a look at
the learn procedure in the service manual.

>> Interestingly, my PF has done something similar a couple of times the last few days --
>> drivers window gets 2/3 up on auto, then there's a noise and it backs off a couple of inches.
>> I suspect something is binding.
>
> This is because it's forgotten where the top is. There's a learn procedure in the SM.
 
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