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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / December 2007

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'92 Sentra 1.6 Cooling System overhaul

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Plague Boy - 17 Nov 2007 16:15 GMT
The saga continues. The same car with all the other problems. Has
 had no maintenance in about five years. I want to change the
coolant. While I'm at it, I might as well change the hoses, since
at least one is bulging, and they all are old-maybe even original.

    So- what type of coolant? Orange, green, or Nissan from the
dealer? It has green right now.

    Hoses- Upper and lower hoses, heater hoses, any other small
hoses that should be done?

    Water pump- I want to change all the belts, should I change the
water pump at the same time, since the car has 173K and the
coolant is *at least* four years old? I can get a new pump for
$20-$40, so the cost isn't much. The labor wouldn't seem to be
much either, and would make changing the thermostat easier.
Or am I being to anal?

    Anything else I should do to service the cooling system, or
anything related while I'm at it? I'm trying to get the car
serviced this year and not have to do anything else for a few years.

PB
still just me - 18 Nov 2007 20:51 GMT
>water pump at the same time, since the car has 173K and the
>coolant is *at least* four years old? I can get a new pump for
>$20-$40, so the cost isn't much. The labor wouldn't seem to be
>much either, and would make changing the thermostat easier.
>Or am I being to anal?

With 173K and if you have traditional green in there, yeah, change it.

Be safe, buy the Nissan Coolant or get an true equivalent. To find an
equivalent, you'll need to do a lot of reading and learn more about
coolants than colors... so it's simpler just to pay the dealer an
extra $3 for the factory coolant.
Plague Boy - 19 Nov 2007 01:26 GMT
>> water pump at the same time, since the car has 173K and the
>> coolant is *at least* four years old? I can get a new pump for
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>
> With 173K and if you have traditional green in there, yeah, change it.

The coolant or the water pump?

    Actually, I was out working on the car and changing the water
pump doesn't look like fun. I had to tighten the PS belt and I
had to do it from *underneath*. Had the car up on ramps to change
the tranny oil. I think I stopped the *squeal* now.

    I'm guessing the easy way is to remove the  tire and plastic
fender liner to allow access. Problem is that whoever worked on
the car last broke most of the fasteners and didn't replace them.
The ones that remain...aren't going to survive removal. By the
time I gather all the parts I may have to wait 'till spring.

> Be safe, buy the Nissan Coolant or get an true equivalent. To find an
> equivalent, you'll need to do a lot of reading and learn more about
> coolants than colors... so it's simpler just to pay the dealer an
> extra $3 for the factory coolant.

Only $3 more? I won't even need Vaseline :-)

Thank you for your reply.

PB
Codifus - 20 Nov 2007 00:07 GMT
> Only $3 more? I won't even need Vaseline :-)
>
> Thank you for your reply.
>
> PB

If you consider that the water pump's tough location will cause
significant labor costs in replacing, that $3 extra doesn't sound so bad
after all, does it?

CD
Plague Boy - 20 Nov 2007 04:48 GMT
>> Only $3 more? I won't even need Vaseline :-)
>>
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> significant labor costs in replacing, that $3 extra doesn't sound so bad
> after all, does it?

If I had known it was that cheap, I would have picked it up while
I was at the Nissan dealer last time, and saved myself a trip.

    Looking at the pump, I'm not really thrilled with the idea of
replacing it. AFAICT there isn't anything wrong with it. since I
would like to change all the belts and hoses, thermostat, and
coolant I was thinking that that's a hearty percentage of the labor.

    I'm sure the previous owner never changed the coolant, so it's
had 3-4 years and 30-40K with old, tired coolant. I'm just
thinking that the lubricants and anti-corrosive additives are
long gone and the water pump may be at the end of its life span.

    At this point I may just change the coolant. What would have
been a tolerable weekend project might really suck in 30F
weather. I'll probably be putting less than 1K on it from now
until spring. So far, the heat is terrific!

PB
Plague Boy - 02 Dec 2007 06:07 GMT
>>> Only $3 more? I won't even need Vaseline :-)
>>>
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> If I had known it was that cheap, I would have picked it up while I was
> at the Nissan dealer last time, and saved myself a trip.

>     I'm sure the previous owner never changed the coolant, so it's had
> 3-4 years and 30-40K with old, tired coolant. I'm just thinking that the
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> probably be putting less than 1K on it from now until spring. So far,
> the heat is terrific!

I stopped by the Nissan dealer and picked up a gallon of Nissan
"green". It came to just shy of $20.00 with NYS tax. forgot to
buy distilled water when I was at the market, though.

    Since it's 15F now, I may just settle for changing the coolant
and let the rest go.

PB
codifus - 03 Dec 2007 21:07 GMT
> >>> Only $3 more? I won't even need Vaseline :-)
>
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>
> PB

I made the same decision on my 98 Sentra. I found that the thermostat
(and water pump) is behind the cam cover in a very tough location. I
decided to just change the coolant and wait till the water pump fails
and do everything then.

CD
 
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