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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / December 2007

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Giving it the boot

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Silver Surfer - 11 Dec 2007 18:05 GMT
My son-in-law's '95 Altima needs a replacement right outer CV boot.  The
original has failed.  My preference is to install one of those split boots
rather than go to the trouble of pulling the hub and all that rigmarole.

What brand split boot would you recommend?
AS - 12 Dec 2007 00:27 GMT
None, nothing like the original boot.

> My son-in-law's '95 Altima needs a replacement right outer CV boot.  The
> original has failed.  My preference is to install one of those split
> boots rather than go to the trouble of pulling the hub and all that
> rigmarole.
>
> What brand split boot would you recommend?
Silver Surfer - 12 Dec 2007 01:14 GMT
Please clarify my understanding for putting an original type boot on.

Loosen hub nut
Remove wheel
Separate lower ball joint and suspension arm
Remove hub nut
Tap hub inward to free it from the knuckle
Position knuckle for ease of removing CV joint and hub shaft

Now instead of removing the support bearing and removing the other end of
the CV/shaft assembly from the transaxle I would like to separate the outer
CV joint from the axle to facilitate relubing and putting on the new boot.

Evidently a sliding weight type puller is used to disengage the hub/CV joint
from the axle shaft.  Is that correct?

Also, it appears to me that the puller will be trying to destroy or distort
a C ring which secures the axle in the CV joint.  The C ring cannot be
accessed once the shaft is inserted into the joint.  Is that correct?

Do you think that I can do the outer CV joint separation without pulling the
entire half shaft out of the machine?

> None, nothing like the original boot.
>
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>> What brand split boot would you recommend?
NissTech - 12 Dec 2007 01:02 GMT
I guess it all depends on how much "rigamarole" you want to go through as
you will surely need to rigamaole the thing again and again.

Bottom line is SPLIT BOOTS ARE PIECES OF sh.t, THEY DON'T WORK !

Besides think about what your doing, you basically putting a protective
cover over a CV joint that has been contaminated with dirt from the road ,
so in a sense you are dooming the joint to failure.

To properly reboot a CV joint it should be removed , cleaned of any dirt and
debris, re packed with grease and rebooted with new clamps.

> My son-in-law's '95 Altima needs a replacement right outer CV boot.  The
> original has failed.  My preference is to install one of those split boots
> rather than go to the trouble of pulling the hub and all that rigmarole.
>
> What brand split boot would you recommend?
al - 12 Dec 2007 01:59 GMT
> My son-in-law's '95 Altima needs a replacement right outer CV boot.  The
> original has failed.  My preference is to install one of those split boots
> rather than go to the trouble of pulling the hub and all that rigmarole.
>
> What brand split boot would you recommend?

The advice you're getting is pessimistic but unfortunately it is quite
correct.  The split boots are notoriously unreliable.  Whatever
mechanism is used to seal the seam usually fails.  It is a quick fix
for a car you want to keep running a little while longer before
getting rid of it.  It's not a long term repair.  If you plan on
keeping the car, you might consider replacing the whole axle shaft
with a rebuilt one.  Rebuilt axle shafts are commonly available at all
auto parts stores, are generally reasonably priced, and you need only
remove the old one and replace it with the rebuild without having to
fool with the joint.  I replaced both axle shafts in my old Sentra
with rebuilds from Advance Auto and was very happy with both of them.
Good luck.  Al
Silver Surfer - 12 Dec 2007 02:05 GMT
Al,

Thanks for that insight.  It looks like the price range for shafts is about
$70 to $110 depending on manufacturer and whether it's a new or rebuilt
unit.  So you would not have any qualms about a rebuilt unit?

If I replace the whole thing will a special tool be needed to protect the
transaxle seal when reinserting that end?

It's my understanding that there is a circular clip on the end of the
transaxle shaft.  Does it release easily when pulling the shaft out and
reengage just as easily upon reinsertion?

>> My son-in-law's '95 Altima needs a replacement right outer CV boot.  The
>> original has failed.  My preference is to install one of those split
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> with rebuilds from Advance Auto and was very happy with both of them.
> Good luck.  Al
frederick - 12 Dec 2007 07:57 GMT
> Al,
>
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> If I replace the whole thing will a special tool be needed to protect
> the transaxle seal when reinserting that end?

If it's like ones I've done, then you don't really need the tool, but
you do need to take care as either the C-clip or the rough edges of the
splines could damage the seal.  Good access and using two hands helps.

> It's my understanding that there is a circular clip on the end of the
> transaxle shaft.  Does it release easily when pulling the shaft out and
> reengage just as easily upon reinsertion?

Some force is usually needed to get it out - you won't pull it out by
hand.  Usually levering with a crowbar or large screwdriver between the
shaft and transmission housing - check the manual on this.  Sometimes
one side comes out like that, with an instruction to use a rod or long
screwdriver carefully put right through the transmission to pop out the
other side axle.
Make sure you can see what you're doing, as there's dust covers on the
shafts protecting the seal, and you can wreck them by poking a bar in
too deep.
Popping the shaft back in is easy - take care with the seals as above, a
sharp tap with a mallet on the CV joint end of the fitted shaft should
seat the C-clip.
Silver Surfer - 12 Dec 2007 16:30 GMT
Frederick,

Thanks for sharing your experience.  Your information has boosted my
confidence in being able to complete the job.  Thanks again.

>> Al,
>>
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> sharp tap with a mallet on the CV joint end of the fitted shaft should
> seat the C-clip.
al - 13 Dec 2007 02:53 GMT
> Frederick,
>
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Frederick's advice is exactly correct.  A large screwdriver or pry bar
will pop the axle shaft out of the transaxle.  My Sentra had a notch
specifically for placing the screwdriver/prybar in the right spot.
Smack it back in with a rubber mallet, hiting the spindle end with the
axle shaft held as straight as possible.  Try to place the circlip
with the open end facing the ground to minimize the possibility of the
circlip slipping down and resisting going in.  The price range you
quoted for the axle shaft sounds just right.  I had no problems with
the Advance Auto rebuilt one.  If you can get a new one for $100 it's
probably worth it.  Good luck.  Al
Silver Surfer - 13 Dec 2007 14:59 GMT
Al,

You and Frederick have provided me with very helpful information that
doesn't show up in service manuals.  Thanks.  I'm obliged to you both.

>> Frederick,
>>
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> the Advance Auto rebuilt one.  If you can get a new one for $100 it's
> probably worth it.  Good luck.  Al
al - 15 Dec 2007 02:23 GMT
> Al,
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Thank you.  I'm glad it was helpful.  Here's one last tip.  If you are
only replacing one axle shaft, jack up the side of the car from which
you are removing the axle shaft a little higher than the other side of
the car.  That will minimize the amount of trans fluid that will come
out of the transaxle when the axle shaft is removed.  Good luck.  Al
 
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