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willshak - 20 Dec 2007 13:01 GMT

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Jim Yanik - 20 Dec 2007 14:11 GMT

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bad news if Nissan decides to use Chrysler parts....
maybe it will be like Ford and Mazda awhile back,Ford used Mazda chassis
and motors for their Probe.

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Andrew Chaplin - 20 Dec 2007 14:56 GMT

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> bad news if Nissan decides to use Chrysler parts....
> maybe it will be like Ford and Mazda awhile back,Ford used Mazda chassis
> and motors for their Probe.

I'd be far more prepared to accept a Ford-labelled Nissan than a
Nissan-labelled Ford.

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codifus - 20 Dec 2007 15:19 GMT

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Like the Mercury Villager?:)
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C. E. White - 20 Dec 2007 15:52 GMT

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> Like the Mercury Villager?:)

The Mercury Villager / Nissan Quest was not exactly a Nissan labeled
Ford. It was co-designed and used a Nissan drivetrain. It was built in
a Ford plant. Most of the problems werer related to the Nisaan
drivetrain, so you can't trash Ford for that one. I do know one person
who owned one and really liked it. However judging by the number of
TSBs Ford sent out for the Villager, I think it was just a mistake.
Maybe the problem was that Ford mechanics were not competent to work
on the Nissan drivetrain, or maybe they did bad things (like use Ford
ATF in a Nissan Transmission). However, I see as many complaints
about the Quest as I do the Villager. I would guess Nissan mechanics
should have had no trouble with the Nissan drivetrain in a Quest.

Ed

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still just me - 21 Dec 2007 01:15 GMT

>> Like the Mercury Villager?:)
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>about the Quest as I do the Villager. I would guess Nissan mechanics
>should have had no trouble with the Nissan drivetrain in a Quest.

You may have hit some of the points... my Quest was a real
disappointment for sure. The manifold bolt problem was squarely in
Nissan's court - affected every V6 of the era to the tune of
$500-$1000. If they'd even advised owners of the issue we all could
have replaced the bolts and gotten out cheap but they decided to screw
us instead. The transmission sucked. Perhaps it was a fluid issue, but
a $1800 rebuild sucks no matter what the reason. My brake lines all
rusted out at 100K. Admittedly, i do like in salt country, but I've
never head of that happening to another modern car so young. Oh,
wait... a buddy of mine had a Ford with that issue.

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Peter Hill - 23 Dec 2007 10:17 GMT

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>Like the Mercury Villager?:)
>CD

A far more succesful Ford/Nissan operation (at least for Nissan). Ford
didn't make it. Ford didn't sell many.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Mistral
USA called it the Pathfinder.

The absolute pits was the Nissan Cherry Europe N12 / Alfa Romeo Arna.
Lacking Itialian design flair but all the added fun of Italian
electrics and build quality. It was so bad, it made 1st place!
http://cars.uk.msn.com/News/Top_ten_article.aspx?cp-documentid=475412

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willshak - 20 Dec 2007 15:15 GMT

on 12/20/2007 9:11 AM Jim Yanik said the following:

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It's different. Ford owns Mazda, as well as Volvo, Jaguar, and Land
Rover. Chrysler and Nissan are not related companies.

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C. E. White - 20 Dec 2007 15:22 GMT

> on 12/20/2007 9:11 AM Jim Yanik said the following:
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> It's different. Ford owns Mazda, as well as Volvo, Jaguar, and Land
> Rover. Chrysler and Nissan are not related companies.

Ford only owns somewhere around 35% of Mazda. This allows them to
control Mazda, but they are separate companies. Ford does own 100% of
Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo (cars only, Volvo trucks are a completely
different company). Ford is soon going to sell Jaguar and Land Rover.
They are planning to hold onto Volvo (for now).

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whitefordtruck - 22 Dec 2007 21:02 GMT

>> http://www.leftlanenews.com/chrysler-nissan-to-partner-on-future-small-
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>bad news if Nissan decides to use Chrysler parts....
>maybe it will be like Ford and Mazda awhile back,Ford used Mazda chassis
>and motors for their Probe.

I agree. Nissan is riding high right now.
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codifus - 20 Dec 2007 15:17 GMT

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Does Nissan really need Chrysler to help make a large truck? How hard
could that be? Maybe it's because I'm not a truck kindof guy, but
what's so special about the Ford F series, The GMC Sierra, and the
Dodge RAM?

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willshak - 20 Dec 2007 15:27 GMT

on 12/20/2007 10:17 AM codifus said the following:

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They are better sellers than the Nissan Titan, which only had ~100,000
sales last year.

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codifus - 20 Dec 2007 18:06 GMT

> on 12/20/2007 10:17 AM codifus said the following:
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I would chalk that up to encumbancy. They have to give it time. It
can't just happen overnight. EVen, Toyote, right now the number 1
vehicle seller in the US, isn't doing too well with Trucks. It took
more than 20 years for the US to really appreciate the Japanese cars.

I don't mean to be anti-domestic, but the local carmakers just don't
want to make what I like. They came close; I liked the Pontiac Fiero
(last version), Pontiac 600 STE (remeber that one?) The 1st Dodge
Stratus, The Ford Taurus SHO. These could have been world class cars
if the freaking bean counters didn't cheapen them so much.

CD

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