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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / January 2008

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rocks tumbler at Start - Frontier 2006

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Ned - 11 Jan 2008 18:31 GMT
you know the sound small rocks make in a steel lined clothes dryer?

that's the sound I get upon initially starting my nissan frontier 2006, car
bought new, has only 11,200 miles and oil changes done every 3,000 miles

it won't make the sound again that same day when parked and restarted but
next morning, ouch!

am in sunny s.florida so cold weather here is not a problem either.

suggestions and things to look for?
Ed White - 11 Jan 2008 21:40 GMT
> you know the sound small rocks make in a steel lined clothes dryer?
>
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>
> suggestions and things to look for?

Make sure you have the correct oil filter installed (to be safe use the
correct Nissan filter).
Make sure you are using the correct viscosity oil (5W30 I think).
Take it to the dealer. The truck is still under warranty. Make it the
dealer's problem.

Ed
CBXXX@webtv.net - 12 Jan 2008 15:29 GMT
I'd go with no check valve in the oil filter!Leaves  no oil up top when
the the car sits,all oil drains back to the pan

12 MILLION PEOPLE CAN'T BE WRONG

BIG" L"
Ned - 13 Jan 2008 10:07 GMT
CBXXX wrote:
> I'd go with no check valve in the oil filter!Leaves  no oil up top when
> the the car sits,all oil drains back to the pan

thanks to all who replied

in case it matters, the filter in question since the very 1st oil change has been
either the K&N or Mobil-1 filter, usually about $10-$11 per filter at Napa or Advanced
Auto Parts

both appear to have the check valve but of course it's possible the last replacement
oil filter is defective
C. E. White - 14 Jan 2008 12:33 GMT
> CBXXX wrote:
>> I'd go with no check valve in the oil filter!Leaves  no oil up top
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> both appear to have the check valve but of course it's possible the
> last replacement oil filter is defective

I'd recommend staying away from both the K&N and Mobil 1 Filters. They
are decent filters, but overpriced. I use the OE Nissan Filter on my
Frontier (2006 V-6). My second choice would be a Purolator PureOne,
and third choice would be a WIX (or NAPA Gold) filter.

I have a picture of the insides of the Nissan Filter at
http://home.earthlink.net/~cewhite3nc/id10.html. I have not cut open
the Purolator and Wix equivalents of the Nissan Filter, but I am
confident they are high quality products. I need to get a new Mobil 1
Filter to cut open, since I believe they have changed sources again
(they were Champion Lab made filters, now I am not sure if they are
the same).

Ed
CBXXX@webtv.net - 15 Jan 2008 04:28 GMT
How have you determined one is better than the other,what lab tests have
you performed on each filter media to determine which filters better and
what microns they each filter out?
C. E. White - 15 Jan 2008 13:01 GMT
> How have you determined one is better than the other,what lab tests
> have
> you performed on each filter media to determine which filters better
> and
> what microns they each filter out?

I don't have the equipment to do that sort of testing. My opinions are
solely based on look and feel and the simple things I can measure
(thickness of filter material, volume of filter material, weight of
filter material, etc.). Many filter marketing companies are very
closed mouth about actual performance parameters. I contacted most
major manufacturers, asked for performance data, and got almost
nothing. What I did get is included in the spread sheet you can
download. One thing I like about Wix was their willingness to supply
performance data. There are many other individuals who have done the
same thing as me, cut open filters to see what is on the inside, and
rated them based on look and feel. A few have also tried to measure
parameters. You might want to look at
http://www.peterverdonedesigns.com/oilfiltertest.htm and
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-86056.html. The
information I have presented is what it is and is mostly my opinion.

I am satisfied that the OE Nissan Filters are decent quality filters.
They may not be the absolute best filters (regardless of cost), but
they are certainly more than sufficient to protect your engine when
changed per the Nissans maintenance guidelines.

Ed
 
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