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WHO GETS THE EXTRA MONEY?

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nucleus - 25 Apr 2008 00:51 GMT
the recent anomaly in the east caused the price of gas in the U.S. to
go up about 25 cents per gallon.

when the price excalates like this, because the price/bbl of oil goes
up, who gets the extra money on a barrel of oil?  speculators?  oil
companies?  OPEC?  WHO?
still just me - 25 Apr 2008 04:36 GMT
>the recent anomaly in the east caused the price of gas in the U.S. to
>go up about 25 cents per gallon.
>
>when the price excalates like this, because the price/bbl of oil goes
>up, who gets the extra money on a barrel of oil?  speculators?  oil
>companies?  OPEC?  WHO?

It's a complex question. It's not like Exxon buys a barrel of oil,
refines it, and then delivers it the next day with a close link
between cost to buy and price sold. Oil can take months to go from
crude to gas station. Also, the prices you see mentioned per barrel
are not actually the prices people are paying, but the price they are
entitled to buy a barrel for - if they buy it ( a "future option").
Often they just sell the option or even a purchase to someone else for
more or less money later. Most oil prices are not driven by people who
actually purchase oil for delivery.

Eventually the higher prices translate to more money in the pocket of
those supplying the crude. The people along the way in the food chain
don't _usually_ make a lot of extra money as prices rise. However,
when the gas station owner raises prices by 25 cents on gas he already
paid for at the lower price within the last few days, he rakes in the
money. Eventually his wholesale cost catches up with him and his
profit margin is reduced. He may lose later on if prices drop (not
happening much lately).

But, if you want to feel ripped off, take a look at the domestic oil
production situation. Exxon (to pick an oil company) pumps gas (oil)
from domestic wells in the South of the USA. It costs a certain amount
to get that oil refined into gas and to the gas pump where we buy it.
Exxon was making money off the wells they own when gas was $1/gallon.
Now they have the same costs, and gas is $3.50 per gallon.

These sorts of situations are one reason the five major oil companies
made $126b in profits last year. Remember to support GWB and his
efforts to make sure the special tax breaks these folks get are not
repealed - that wouldn't be fair! Oh, and while you're getting pissed
off at GWB, don't forget to notice that the crashing value of the
dollar has global investors fleeing dollars and investing in oil -
driving oil prices higher and higher even as the dollar is worth less
and less. See GWB for that problem too (it has to do with a $3T
deficit and endless spending with no way of paying for it except
borrowing from other countries (further devaluing the dollar).
Jim - 06 May 2008 03:00 GMT
> These sorts of situations are one reason the five major oil companies
> made $126b in profits last year. Remember to support GWB and his
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> deficit and endless spending with no way of paying for it except
> borrowing from other countries (further devaluing the dollar).

And you conveniently left out how much these oil companies pay in taxes
in relation to other companies and how much money these are REQUIRED to
invest in developing alternative sources of energy--(blame the Dems for
leaving that out -- as usual)

Also, you conveniently omitted how these companies cannot drill the
massive oil deposits in Alaska, North Dakota, and many places off-shore.
 Maybe there's not enough oil to last the rest of our lives there, but
there is enough oil to affect supply and demand -- much of the money
would go to the U.S., the oil companies would pay greater taxes, and new
jobs would be created for the United States populace.  And when's the
last time you saw a new refinery built?  It's almost impossible, given
the environmental regulations.

If the Democrats win the next election, they are going to have to
address these questions.  Do you think we will develop cars running 100
miles a gallon (or even 50 miles a gallon -- I know --we have those now)
and if we do will everyone immediately junk their present car to buy one
of these, or maybe we're not all independently wealthy.

Regarding taxes, I live in Colorado, and the State has said many of our
bridges are badly in need of repair, and are talking about raising our
vehicle registration fees by $50 (think that's the amount).

Just thought I'd add my 2 cents worth.  (Ready to be flamed -- got my
asbestos suit on).
still just me - 06 May 2008 22:15 GMT
>> These sorts of situations are one reason the five major oil companies
>> made $126b in profits last year. Remember to support GWB and his
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>invest in developing alternative sources of energy--(blame the Dems for
>leaving that out -- as usual)

But what they pay is irrelevant. Everyone business and individual
should pay their required taxes. I have a business, I pay lots of
taxes on it. Oil companies currently enjoy special EXEMPTIONS to
"encourage" them to explore for oil. How wrong that is requires no
explanation. it'd be funny if it wasn't OUR money filling the gaps so
that they don't have to pay taxes.

>Also, you conveniently omitted how these companies cannot drill the
>massive oil deposits in Alaska, North Dakota, and many places off-shore.

Totally irrelevant to their massive profits and reduced taxes - the
issue I posted on.

>  Maybe there's not enough oil to last the rest of our lives there, but
>there is enough oil to affect supply and demand -- much of the money
>would go to the U.S., the oil companies would pay greater taxes, and new
>jobs would be created for the United States populace.  And when's the
>last time you saw a new refinery built?  It's almost impossible, given
>the environmental regulations.

First, you're playing into the industry ploy that they'd pump enough
oil to lower the prices. With a commodity that's not only limited in
terms of current supply, but in terms of longevity, that's just plain
BS.

Check into the industry practices a little. Just a couple years ago,
natural gas (heating) prices were out of control. At the same time,
the oil companies pumping oil out of the South were burning off
natural gas at the refineries. Why? Berceuse they have a limited
equation - they can produce natural gas, or gasoline, etc, but they
have a finite capacity to produce one or the other from specific
wells. They made more money by selling less natural gas at higher
prices (rather than pumping more to sell at lower prices due to
increased supply) and spend their capacity pumping other products (oil
and gasoline,etc) that they could then sell more of.

Bottom line, the oil companies are not your friend or mine, they will
gouge and steal every last dollar they can. They have no interest in
helping Americans - just themselves.

>If the Democrats win the next election, they are going to have to
>address these questions.  Do you think we will develop cars running 100
>miles a gallon (or even 50 miles a gallon -- I know --we have those now)
>and if we do will everyone immediately junk their present car to buy one
>of these, or maybe we're not all independently wealthy.

I'm no fan of the DUmbocrats. However, we do need leadership that is
not a psuedo-facist (the pure definition) state where government and
industry collude to screw the populace.

In addition, there is currently little in the way of serious
government effort to develop alternative plans to oil. The piddling
dollars they claim go into research are a drop in the bucket compared
to the tax breaks the oil companies still enjoy at our expense. Fair
is fair - oil companies should pay equal taxes to all other
industries.

>Regarding taxes, I live in Colorado, and the State has said many of our
>bridges are badly in need of repair, and are talking about raising our
>vehicle registration fees by $50 (think that's the amount).

It sounds like a local problem is going to be repaired with properly
targeted local money. You drive, you pay to fix bridges. Sounds fair
to me. The issue in most states is to make sure the money doesn't get
diverted to unrelated causes.

>Just thought I'd add my 2 cents worth.  (Ready to be flamed -- got my
>asbestos suit on).

Don't get me wrong - I'm not promoting either party. I'm promoting
fairness to the people who supposedly run this country (us).
Politicians and Administrations that run the government for the
benefit of huge conglomerates are not working in the interest of the
people.

The neo-cons running the Republican Party right now are offensive to
the principles this country was founded on. Knock on my door when the
real conservatives come back.
Jim - 08 May 2008 04:26 GMT
Excuse me???

All these points are relevant.

And...so if you get rid of the tax subsidies to big oil companies, and
the price for gasoline goes up, what are you going to do about it?
Increase the taxes? And if the price goes up more?

If your original post said "I feel the tax subsidies to oil companies
need to be discontinued because ... and it will cause ... to happen", I
probably would have not replied.  But when you parroted many Democrats'
position, blaming "GWB" and "big oil", I realized you weren't really
looking for a solution, but just wanted to stir up anger against
Republicans.  And you didn't think anyone would call you on this.

If you want to blame someone, I'm sure there's more than enough blame to
go around on both sides of the aisle.  And how does anger and blame help
solve the problem?  Yes, it's easy to get others on the anger-and-blame
bandwagon; everyone's upset about the price of gas, including me.  The
real problem is that our country needs to work together to develop and
implement workable solutions for this problem.  We need to put every
possible solution on the table and look at it objectively, and pick what
works and what works best.

In regards to "big oil", two things we could do is nationalize the oil
industry (along with the health-care system).  Or we could sell off our
oil industry to foreigners and get out of the oil business entirely (and
see what that would do to gas prices).

I wish we could have had someone from "Big Oil" join this discussion to
hear his side of the story.  "Big Oil" needs to be part of this
discussion too.

By the way, I think if we could tap into most of our undeveloped oil
reserves, we could make quite a dent in our needs for energy -- not
forever, but for quite a while.  And I am not connected with the oil
industry--I work for the U.S. Geological Survey.  We are not permitted
to own oil stock.
still just me - 10 May 2008 04:53 GMT
>Excuse me???
>
>All these points are relevant.

No, they aren't.

>And...so if you get rid of the tax subsidies to big oil companies, and
>the price for gasoline goes up, what are you going to do about it?
>Increase the taxes? And if the price goes up more?

Once again, irrelevant. We're not discussing the cost of oil. We're
discussing tax fairness. The current law gives a tax discount to oil
companies. Companies making $126B per year don't deserve a special tax
incentive. End of story. Retail prices are another matter.

>If your original post said "I feel the tax subsidies to oil companies
>need to be discontinued because ... and it will cause ... to happen", I
>probably would have not replied.  But when you parroted many Democrats'
>position, blaming "GWB" and "big oil", I realized you weren't really
>looking for a solution, but just wanted to stir up anger against
>Republicans.  And you didn't think anyone would call you on this.

I don't care for Republicans or Democrats in general -at least not the
party mainstream. I do call a spade a spade. The current
administration and their neo-con allies have fought to preserve
significant discounts to oil companies. In addition, they have
consistently fought to divert tax dollars at an unprecedented rate to
private companies that they favor.

That's not democracy, it's not capitalism, it's fascism. It's
repugnant to democracy. It's revolting to all true conservatives,
liberals, and patriots alike.

>If you want to blame someone, I'm sure there's more than enough blame to
>go around on both sides of the aisle.  And how does anger and blame help
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>possible solution on the table and look at it objectively, and pick what
>works and what works best.

Again, the aisle has nothing to do with it.

>In regards to "big oil", two things we could do is nationalize the oil
>industry (along with the health-care system).  Or we could sell off our
>oil industry to foreigners and get out of the oil business entirely (and
>see what that would do to gas prices).

I haven't seen anyone floating a proposal to nationalize oil. I do see
tax unfairness.

>I wish we could have had someone from "Big Oil" join this discussion to
>hear his side of the story.  "Big Oil" needs to be part of this
>discussion too.

I've spoken to people working the wells, inside research labs at big
oil, industry consultants, and players at the wholesale/retail level.
None of them defend the tax breaks except for small drillers who may
actually deserve a break. Only upper management defends them as
legitimate along with their neo-con allies.

>By the way, I think if we could tap into most of our undeveloped oil
>reserves, we could make quite a dent in our needs for energy -- not
>forever, but for quite a while.  And I am not connected with the oil
>industry--I work for the U.S. Geological Survey.  We are not permitted
>to own oil stock.

If you know anything about oil, then you know that it will be 10 years
before there oil from any new Arctic Drilling could be brought in,
environmental considerations not withstanding. That will have no
effect on the current situation.

It will also not affect the core issue I've mentioned multiple times:
tax fairness.
NissTech - 28 Apr 2008 03:29 GMT
Your friendly US government

If the govt. reduced it tax by 50% on a gallon of gas it would be a bit over
2 bucks a gallon

> the recent anomaly in the east caused the price of gas in the U.S. to
> go up about 25 cents per gallon.
>
> when the price excalates like this, because the price/bbl of oil goes
> up, who gets the extra money on a barrel of oil?  speculators?  oil
> companies?  OPEC?  WHO?
R J Talley - 02 May 2008 06:19 GMT
"Your friendly US government

If the govt. reduced it tax by 50% on a gallon of gas it would be a bit over
2 bucks a gallon"

Say what? Fed tax on gas is $.18 per gallon.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/gasoline_taxes.html

The gouging is occurring in the commodities market. Middle men drive up the
cost through competitive bidding on "futures" that is to say, oil that will
be pumped in the future. They guarantee to pay a fixed price and sellers
then sell to them at that price. They in turn sell to the refiners.  What's
happening is that refiners keep a 30-60 day surplus in storage. This was
purchased at the previous lower price. When speculators drive the future
price up, the refineries re-adjust their cost to dealers and reap the
windfall.

Signature

R J Talley
Teacher/James Madison Fellow
"What? Me Worry? Alfred E Newman

R J Talley - 03 May 2008 02:19 GMT
Hot Topic: What's Up With Gas Prices?
Student Reading
On April 14th 2008, the national average price for a gallon of regular
gasoline reached a new all-time, inflation-adjusted high of $3.37.  But
people are driving less and oil supplies are increasing!  Decreasing demand
and increasing supply should lower the price of gasoline; so why are gas
prices rising?  Is it the election?  A conspiracy?   Price gouging oil
companies?  Or might supply and demand still have something to do with this
mystery?

Before the new records set in March and April of 2008, the highest
historical price for gasoline was in May, 1981 when the average price was
$1.36/gallon.  In today’s dollars, that’s the equivalent of $3.22.  While
gasoline and oil prices have reached and passed the highs of the ‘80s, they’re
high for different reasons.  Read the excerpts from two articles below for a
comparison between the factors influencing gas prices then and gas prices
now.

Gas prices strike all-time high (CNNMoney.com, March 31, 2008)

Average gasoline prices have hit another all-time high, according to a
survey conducted for motorist organization AAA.
The average price of regular rose to $3.287 a gallon, up from $3.286 the
previous day, according to the AAA Web site.
The price averaged $3.165 a month ago. A year ago, American drivers were
paying $2.673, according to AAA.
. . . Analysts say surging crude prices are largely to blame for pricey gas.
Crude topped $100 a barrel in early 2008, and has traded above $100 for most
of the year.

While gasoline prices have hit record highs well before the start of the
summer driving season, most analysts expect prices to peak relatively
early - somewhere between $3.30 and $3.80 a gallon - and then decline during
the second half of the spring as a slowing economy crimps demand. SOURCE
LINK

Oil Prices Pass Record Set in ’80s, but Then Recede
(by Jad Mouawad, NY Times, March 3, 2008)

Since 2000, oil prices have more than quadrupled as strong growth in demand
from the United States and Asia outstripped the ability of oil producers to
increase their output.
The rising prices of the past decade failed to dent global economic growth
as consumers absorbed the higher costs. Even now, with the United States
economy slowing markedly, the trend has not slowed much. Global oil
consumption is still expected to increase by 1.4 million barrels a day this
year, driven by demand in China and the Middle East.
Still, today’s record is markedly different from the energy crises of the
1970s and 1980s. These were brought about by sudden interruptions in oil
supplies, such as the 1973 Arab oil embargo, the Iranian revolution of 1979,
or the outbreak of the war between Iran and Iraq in 1980.

Also, the United States economy at the time was much more dependent on oil
than it is today. The amount of oil needed to increase economic output by $1
has dropped by 25 percent since 1990.

In the early 1980s, energy accounted for about 8 percent of disposable
income in American households. As the economy became less energy-intensive
and prices declined, that share fell under 4 percent in the early 1990s.

But as prices keep rising, the share of energy spending has been increasing.
It reached more than 6 percent of household disposable income in December.

SOURCE LINK

Since the year 2000, increasing demand for gasoline, mainly from Asia and
the United States, has lead to rising gas prices.  An increase in demand
(shift of the demand curve to the right) means that consumers are willing
and able to buy more gas at any given price.  However, according to the
Dept. of Economic Analysis, demand for gasoline has actually decreased by 1%
since January.  When demand decreases, or (shifts to the left – see graph
below), the equilibrium price and quantity decrease.  Why then, are prices
still rising?

Economists and analysts think that commodities markets, gasoline futures
contracts, and the exchange rate may have something to do with the rising
prices.  Because of news reports on “the Dow’, most of us are aware that
investors buy and sell stocks in markets like the New York Stock Exchange or
the NASDAQ, but we may not realize that investors also buy and sell futures
contracts for commodities such as iron ore, gold, sugar, crude oil, and
gasoline.  Every day billions of dollars in commodities are bought and sold
on the floors of commodities exchanges like the Chicago Board of Trade
(CBOT) or the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX).  As buyers and sellers
interact, commodities prices change, and those changes can affect the price
we pay for gasoline at the pump.

A futures contract is an agreement to buy or sell a commodity at a
prearranged future date and price.  The basic purpose of a futures contract
is to provide price-change protection.  For example, a farmer estimates that
it will cost $2 a bushel to produce his wheat.  Rather than run the risk
that the market price for wheat will be less than $2 at harvest time, he can
enter into a contract now to deliver the wheat at harvest time for a price
of $2.50.  At the same time, a food processing company may want to enter
into a contract now to receive the wheat for $2.50 rather than run the risk
that the market price at harvest time may be higher than $2.50.

However, the buyers and sellers of the actual commodities are not the only
players in the futures market. Speculators buy and sell futures contracts,
but have no desire to own the actual commodity; they see the possibility of
price change as an opportunity for profit.  A speculator who anticipates a
commodity price increase will buy a futures contract now with the hope of
selling it at a higher price later on.  On the other hand, a speculator who
anticipates that a commodity price will decrease, will sell a contract he
doesn’t own (a practice called selling short) with the hopes of being able
to buy it back at a lower price.

Contracts are bought and sold many times over before the contract date when
the actual commodity must be delivered. In fact, the Chicago Board of Trade
estimates that only four percent or less of what is traded, actually gets
delivered as businesses attempt to manage risk and speculators attempt to
profit by anticipating price changes.

A final piece of the puzzle of rising gas prices in a time of falling demand
is the exchange rate.  In order to trade goods and services with other
countries, businesses must first exchange currencies.  Currencies are bought
and sold in the foreign exchange market and the term exchange rate refers to
the price of one currency in another – or how much of one currency it takes
to buy another currency.  If it takes more and more dollars to buy one euro,
then we would say that the dollar is depreciating relative to the euro and
the euro is appreciating relative to the dollar.  The articles below refer
to a “falling dollar” which, in general, means the dollar is depreciating
relative to other currencies. Sometimes this is also referred to as a “weak
dollar.”   That means foreign investors can buy more dollars for less of
their own currency.  And then, rather than just holding those American
dollars and watching them lose value as the dollar falls or inflation
decreases the purchasing power of the dollar, they can invest in things for
which they expect the price to rise faster than inflation… like gasoline or
crude oil futures contracts.

Read the following excerpts and pay close attention to the role that
commodities markets, futures contracts, and exchange rates are playing in
the rising gas price saga.

Gas Prices Near Records, Following Oil (by John Wilen, Associated Press,
March 10, 2008)
. . . Many analysts believe speculative investing attracted by the weak
dollar is the primary reason oil has risen so far so fast in recent months.
Crude futures offer a hedge against a falling dollar, and oil futures bought
and sold in dollars are more attractive to foreign investors when the dollar
is falling.
. . . Many investors believe the greenback is likely to keep falling as the
Fed continues to cut [interest] rates. Many analysts believe the rise in
crude prices is not supported by the market's underlying fundamentals,
noting that supplies are generally rising while demand is falling.
"By gobbling up everything in sight, [investors] are pushing food and fuel
prices to ruinously high levels," said Peter Beutel, president of the energy
risk management firm Cameron Hanover, in a research note. SOURCE LINK

Good Question: If people are driving less, why do gas prices keep rising?
(by John Wilen, Associated Press, March 21, 2008)
Q: If people are driving less, why do gas prices keep rising?
A: People are indeed driving less. Gas consumption has fallen about 1
percent since late January.
Yet, gas prices are on the rise. Gas has averaged more than $3 a gallon for
four straight months and, more recently, has surged into record territory.
Estimates of how high gas prices will go this year vary from $3.50 a gallon
to $4. But virtually everyone agrees prices have higher to go before they
fall.
This disconnect between demand and price may seem to violate fundamental
rules of economics, but gas prices are actually responding to demand of a
different kind: from investors.
Contrary to the views of many conspiracy theorists, gas prices aren't set by
refiners or gas stations as part of a campaign to gouge consumers. Prices
are a function of the open market, as manifested in the trading of futures
contracts on the New York Mercantile Exchange, or Nymex.

Nymex gasoline futures have been rising, following oil, despite growing
supplies of both commodities. Blame the falling dollar, which has made
dollar-denominated oil contracts irresistible to foreign investors and to
any investors looking for a safe haven for their money during a turbulent
time in the stock market.

This buying by investors has pushed oil futures to a series of records in
recent weeks, and the rest of the energy complex -- which includes gasoline
futures -- has followed.

Unfortunately, consumers pay for this investment frenzy in the form of
higher pump prices. And despite mounting evidence that Americans are cutting
back on their gasoline habit -- and may cut back even more drastically as
gas gets more expensive -- it might be some time before prices start
responding to lower demand. SOURCE LINK

Questions for Discussion:

 a.. What caused the high oil prices of the early 1980s?
 a.. What explains the general rise in oil prices from 2000 to 2008?
 a.. Despite the decrease in demand and the increase in supply, what
explains the recent and continued rise in gasoline prices since January,
2008?
 a.. If the Federal Reserve continues to enact expansionary monetary policy
(i.e. “the Fed continues to cut rates”), what impact do you think this will
have on the value of the dollar relative to foreign currencies?  How would
that impact futures contracts for crude oil and gasoline?  And how would
this impact gasoline prices?
 a.. Markets are dynamic.  There is constant pressure on supply and demand
from all directions.  Identify some variables referred to in these articles
that could increase the demand for gasoline.  Decrease?  (Optional: Use a
graph to illustrate each of these changes in demand on the equilibrium price
and quantity of gasoline.)
 a.. What are some variables referred to in these articles that could
increase the supply of gasoline?  Decrease?  (Optional: Use a graph to
illustrate each of these changes in supply on the equilibrium price and
quantity of gasoline.)
 a.. If the supply of gasoline increases at the same time demand increases,
what can you say for sure about equilibrium price and/or quantity.
(Optional: Use a graph to illustrate your answer
Teacher Guide to Discussion Questions

1) What caused the high oil prices of the early 1980s?

 The “energy crises of the 1970s and 1980s .  . .  was brought about by
sudden interruptions in oil supplies, such as the 1973 Arab oil embargo, the
Iranian revolution of 1979, [and] the outbreak of the war between Iran and
Iraq in 1980.”

2) What explains the rising oil prices from 2000 to 2006?

 A rising demand world-wide for oil.  “Global oil consumption is still
expected to increase by 1.4 million barrels a day this year, driven by
demand in China and the Middle East.”

3) Despite the 1% decrease in demand since January, 2008 and the increased
supplies of oil, what explains the recent and continued rise in gasoline
prices today?

 “Blame the falling dollar, which has made dollar-denominated oil contracts
irresistible to foreign investors and to any investors looking for a safe
haven for their money during a turbulent time in the stock market.”
 “Investors desperate for havens in a deep housing market slump are buying
up all kinds of commodities, including oil. In addition, a weak dollar makes
oil cheaper in foreign nations.”

4) If the Federal Reserve continues to enact expansionary monetary policy
(i.e. “the Fed continues to cut rates”), what impact will this have on the
value of the dollar relative to foreign currencies?  How will that impact
futures contracts for crude oil and gasoline?  And how would this impact
gasoline prices?

 Expansionary monetary policy may lead to higher price levels (inflation)
for everything we buy with dollars . . . including other currencies.  In
other words, it will take more dollars to buy those foreign currencies.  The
dollar will depreciate relative to foreign currencies.  That could continue
to spur demand by foreign investors for oil and gas futures (which are
traded in dollars), and that increase in demand for futures could ultimately
lead to even higher prices for gasoline.

5) Markets are dynamic.  There is constant pressure on supply and demand
from all directions.  Identify some variables referred to in these articles
that could increase the demand for gasoline?  Decrease?  (Optional: Use a
graph to illustrate each of these changes in demand on the equilibrium price
and quantity of gasoline.)

 Increase
 -Summer driving season
 -Increase in oil consumption in China and Middle East

 Decrease
 Slower economy
 “Americans… cutting back on their gasoline habit”

6) Identify some variables referred to in these articles that could increase
the supply of gasoline?  Decrease?  (Optional: Use a graph to illustrate
each of these changes in supply on the equilibrium price and quantity of
gasoline.)

 Increase
 “…ability of oil producers to increase their output” (i.e. improved
technology, discovery of new resources)

 Decrease
 -increase in price of crude (an input for gas)
 -hurricane, war, or other supply disruption

7) If the supply of gasoline increases at the same time demand increases,
can you say for sure what will happen to the equilibrium price and quantity?
(Optional: Use a graph to illustrate your answer.)

 When supply and demand increase at the same time, more will be exchanged
(equilibrium quantity will increase).  Equilibrium price, however, may
increase, decrease, or stay the same, depending on the relative size of each
shift.  For example, if the increase in demand is greater than the increase
in supply, price will rise.  If the increase in supply is greater than the
increase in demand, price will fall.

Optional Extension Activities

 a.. Provide students more experience with real and nominal values. In
general, prices are higher today than in years past because of inflation,
but when we adjust for inflation, the real prices for many goods today are
actually lower than in years past.  Real prices are adjusted for inflation.
Nominal prices are not; they are the prices that appear on price tags.
Nominal gas prices are at an all-time high, but until recently, today’s
prices were lower than those of the 1980s when they were adjusted for
inflation.  Search the web to find prices of other goods in the 1980s.  Then
find an inflation calculator on the internet and calculate the “real
price” - what those goods would cost in today’s dollars.  Are real prices
for those goods higher or lower than today?
 Inflation Calculators:
 http://data.bls.gov/cgi-bin/cpicalc.pl
http://woodrow.mpls.frb.fed.us/Research/data/us/calc/

 In The 80’s: http://www.inthe80s.com

 a.. Have students visit the NYMEX.com website and read about “How the
Exchange Works.”  Divide the class into 2 or 3 large groups and have each
group create a short skit to illustrate how commodities exchanges work.

 b.. Have students visit NYMEX.com to check on the current prices for
gasoline and crude oil futures.  Ask them to describe the overall trend in
the price of the futures contracts over the past month.  Then ask them to
predict what they think will happen to the prices over the next month.

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