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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / May 2008

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Oh, my.  What a waste.

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willshak - 04 May 2008 22:49 GMT
http://www.switched.com/2008/04/30/mazda-sends-4-703-new-cars-to-the-scrap-heap/
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or: http://tinyurl.com/448jve

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chippie - 05 May 2008 21:06 GMT
> http://tinyurl.com/448jve

Good grief! They should have offered them at crazy knock down prices if
people would agree to signing a waiver over future reliability.

Chippie.
JohnK - 06 May 2008 16:42 GMT
>> http://tinyurl.com/448jve
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> Good grief! They should have offered them at crazy knock down prices if
> people would agree to signing a waiver over future reliability.
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> Chippie.

The Japanese manufacturer did the correct thing. While it does seem like
such a waste, there
was no way that that they could be certain (to their satisfaction) that they
would be selling vehicles
that did not have inherent defects, some undoubtedly life-threatening.
They could easily argue that their own standards will not permit them to
knowlingly sell such vehicles
at any price.
But the main reason is prob ably legal; the idea that a buyer may be willing
to understake any risks by
signing off on a waiver indemnifying Mazda from any damages or claims on the
surface sounds reasonable,
until you stop to consider that the wife or family members or any dependents
of the
injured (the one who signed the waiver) could easily bring action against
them despite the signed waiver.
This wasteful action is a result of our litigation-crazy lawyer infested
society in which we live.
willshak - 06 May 2008 19:54 GMT
on 5/6/2008 11:42 AM JohnK said the following:
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> This wasteful action is a result of our litigation-crazy lawyer infested
> society in which we live.

They should have filled the cars with lawyers before they crushed them.

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JohnK - 07 May 2008 17:01 GMT
> on 5/6/2008 11:42 AM JohnK said the following:
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> They should have filled the cars with lawyers before they crushed them.

Yes, as the joke goes...."a good start".
Jim Yanik - 06 May 2008 23:19 GMT
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just tilting the car isn't going to cause "life-threatening" defects.

Now,if a car got soaked,that's a different matter.It's not that hard to
find the ones that actually got dunked.

I'd gladly take one of the dry cars for the cost of shipping and waive
liability.
They could also have donated the dry cars to poor people who needed a car
to get to work.

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willshak - 07 May 2008 01:42 GMT
on 5/6/2008 6:19 PM Jim Yanik said the following:

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If one of those poor people got killed or badly injured due to something
in the car failing, the lawyers will insure that those people, or their
survivors, won't be poor anymore.
Mazda figured it was cheaper to crush the cars than to have to pay a
multi million dollar law suit settlement. "They knew, or should have
known, that there could be a failure" is the basis for a winnable lawsuit..

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R J Talley - 10 May 2008 14:01 GMT
All would be good until the car was sold the second or third time. Those
"down stream" buyers might not know what they were buying

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"What? Me Worry? Alfred E Newman

Jim Yanik - 10 May 2008 15:37 GMT
> All would be good until the car was sold the second or third time. Those
> "down stream" buyers might not know what they were buying

just like any other private sale;AS-IS,no warranty. Caveat emptor.

But Mazda could put some language on the title.

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