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1991 Nissan NX 1600 help?

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evodawg - 24 Jun 2008 15:37 GMT
Will be doing some checking on this today. Have some electrical problems,
first the fan inside that runs the heater and air cond. only runs at full
speed. There are 5 or 6 setting that control the fan but only the highest
setting works. Second, when I push the button to start the air cond. the
compressor does not start. The green light on the dash works but it does
not start the compressor. Third, it does not seem the electric fans on the
radiator are operating. With the hot weather last week I would have thought
the fans would be running wild. The temp. on the gauge reads normal most of
the time. I did notice once it went up pretty high but still within
operationg levels. I could not stop to see if fans were running. I'm wonder
if the large relays near battery are ok. Anyone know how to test these.

Thanks
rich
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Gary - 25 Jun 2008 00:25 GMT
This is from memory, so take it with a grain of salt...

The inside blower motor is probably the resistor pack.  very common.
It's located in the air duct, all that should be visible is the connector
(remove the assembly from the duct to test/replace it)

The radiator fans turn on as needed.  One for the AC, one for motor cooling.
The AC one should turn on when the AC is running
The motor cooling one only turns on when the motor is warmer.
(It's normally off while the car is moving down the road)
Leave it in park on a hot day for 10-15 minutes, either the fan should turn
on,
it it'll over heat (At least in Texas today it will)

The compressor may not turn on if the pressure sensors in the system prevent
it (too high/low I think).

It's unlikely several relays went bad (one for each fan, one for the
compressor)
has someone been playing with the electrical system?
has this car not seen maintenance for a while?

> Will be doing some checking on this today. Have some electrical problems,
> first the fan inside that runs the heater and air cond. only runs at full
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> Thanks
> rich
evodawg - 25 Jun 2008 02:20 GMT
> This is from memory, so take it with a grain of salt...
>
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> has someone been playing with the electrical system?
> has this car not seen maintenance for a while?

Thanks for your help so far!

Ok the radiator fans are running. Just got concerned when I wasn't hearing
them but I guess the water was not getting hot enough.

I'll look for the resistor pack. Could you be more specific where it is? Is
it inside the car's duct work or under the hood near the blower? I took the
center console out today thinking it was behind the switch. I had to anyway
because I needed to hook up a linkage that came loose. Obviously I didn't
find the resistor pack.

So if the air cond. is charged to high it could keep it from running? Your
right about all the relays going bad at the same time I agree and it
appears they didn't. Wondering if I can jumper to the air compressor to see
if the clutch engages?

No one but me has messed with electrical on the car. I'm pretty versed when
it comes to auto's. Electrical always gets a little tricky though.

Thanks again

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Gary - 25 Jun 2008 03:56 GMT
On the resistor pack, get on your knees and look up where the passenger
would put their feet. You'll see 4  wires going into a duct near the blower
motor.   They run into a small black board held in by 2 screws.

I'm not that wise on the AC, I just know if it's not right, there are
sensors/switches that'll turn off power to the compressor clutch.

>> This is from memory, so take it with a grain of salt...
>>
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>
> Thanks again
evodawg - 25 Jun 2008 14:50 GMT
> On the resistor pack, get on your knees and look up where the passenger
> would put their feet. You'll see 4  wires going into a duct near the
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> I'm not that wise on the AC, I just know if it's not right, there are
> sensors/switches that'll turn off power to the compressor clutch.

Gary, Thanks for all your help and pinpointing exactly where that resistor
pack is. I'll be tackling this today.

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evodawg - 25 Jun 2008 18:41 GMT
> On the resistor pack, get on your knees and look up where the passenger
> would put their feet. You'll see 4  wires going into a duct near the
> blower
> motor.   They run into a small black board held in by 2 screws.

Ok, If this is the right one when I pull it out it looks like it has a large
metal square piece running up into a air duct, it almost looks like this
metal piece blocks an air vent. Kinda like a temp. control device or
climate control. The connector on this one has 4 wide tabs like the fan
switch in the center console. Then there is another much smaller one closer
to the fan motor that I have not taken out yet. Maybe that's the one?

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Gary - 26 Jun 2008 02:22 GMT
Some resistor packs look like coils others flat metal.  the reason it's in
the duct is because it gets hot at the lower blower speeds, and the airflow
cools it (It should be positioned before the heater core.)
Here's a picture of one on ebay, sounds like you described...
...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320265807322

>> On the resistor pack, get on your knees and look up where the passenger
>> would put their feet. You'll see 4  wires going into a duct near the
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> closer
> to the fan motor that I have not taken out yet. Maybe that's the one?
evodawg - 27 Jun 2008 20:41 GMT
> Some resistor packs look like coils others flat metal.  the reason it's in
> the duct is because it gets hot at the lower blower speeds, and the
> airflow cools it (It should be positioned before the heater core.)
> Here's a picture of one on ebay, sounds like you described...

Picked up one at our local Pick a Part for 3.00 and hooked it up before
leaving the parking lot and everything works fine. Dealer wanted 38.00 for
it. Picked up a bunch of other stuff to. It's nice having the Sentra to
fall back on since having this car I have only seen 3 and that's in 8
years. Guess it's fairly rare when it comes to Nissan's, even the dealer
when quoting the part price had a hard time finding info on it.

Thanks to all, now it's time to tackle the Air Cond. leak but I'm pretty
sure I know where that's at. Should be an easy fix. When I was at the junk
yard I asked what an  Air Cond. compressor went for just in case, $50.00.

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evodawg - 25 Jun 2008 22:41 GMT
Here's what I pulled out today. I decided to take a picture of it to confirm
what it looks like. Let me know if this is even close to what it should
look like. Like I said earlier, looks like a temp sending device for
climate control. It blocks duct work for some reason. This looks like a
Nissan part only. Should be interesting on what they want for this???

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll279/evodawg/dscn1753.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll279/evodawg/dscn1754.jpg

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LouieG - 26 Jun 2008 02:12 GMT
> Here's what I pulled out today. I decided to take a picture of it to confirm
> what it looks like. Let me know if this is even close to what it should
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> http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll279/evodawg/dscn1753.jpg
> http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll279/evodawg/dscn1754.jpg 

Yes, that is the blower resistor. Should cost about $25 at your local
dealership. The replacement unit has been redesigned and will not look
exactly the same (replaced mine in a 92 Sentra a few months ago) take it
to the dealership to compare it with the new unit for fit, but the new
design fits fine.
 
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