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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / January 2009

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Nissan Micra Headlight problem

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BigDave - 23 Jan 2009 12:55 GMT
Hi,

Only one headlight and sidelight are working in a Y reg Nissan Micra
(the nearside is the one that isn't working).

It's not the bulb or fuse (have swapped with other bulb and fuse),
also I presume the side light is a different bulb too?

Here is the weird thing - if I put the full beam on (the one that
blinds other drivers) fixed, the same problem - BUT if I put the full
beam temporarily (pulling the stalk towards the driver, when you let
go it flicks back) then both work!

Any idea what this might be and how I might resolve?

Thanks
John Henderson - 23 Jan 2009 20:07 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> Any idea what this might be and how I might resolve?

That's classic symptoms of a bad earth connection, and the next thing to
check.

With this fault condition, the return leg to complete the circuit (back
from the lights to the battery via the bodywork of the car) is corroded
or otherwise broken somewhere.  Under certain switching circumstances,
the circuit can complete through some otherwise unpowered bulb filament.

John
BigDave - 25 Jan 2009 11:25 GMT
Thanks for that John.

So how would I check this?

Do I follow the earth back from the light to where it terminates? If
so, do you know what colour the wire would be?

I'm not really that technical but I'm always happy to see if I can see
anything obvious.

Alternatively it has been suggested it might be the stalk?  Do you
think this might be likely?

David

> > Hi,
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>
> John
John Henderson - 27 Jan 2009 19:08 GMT
> Thanks for that John.
>
> So how would I check this?
>
> Do I follow the earth back from the light to where it
> terminates? If so, do you know what colour the wire would be?

I haven't checked a Micra, but usually a car's headlight
earthing is done through the light body directly to the car
body.  Usually they'd be held together by screws, and corrosion
at that point could cause your problem.

The headlight bulb itself will have an earth wire, usually
short, connecting to the body (whether light housing or car
body) somewhere.

With the fault condition evident (lights switched on, but
unlit), a bad earth will result in a 12V potential between the
light body and the car body.  You should be able to detect this
with a multimeter.  Alternatively, a small bulb connected via
leads between bare metal on the light body and the engine block
will light (if there's an earthing fault).  Alternatively
again, connecting a wire from light body to engine block would
see the lights come on (while it's making contact at each end).

> I'm not really that technical but I'm always happy to see if I
> can see anything obvious.
>
> Alternatively it has been suggested it might be the stalk?  Do
> you think this might be likely?

It's possible, but I'd be surprised if the separate left and
right lighting circuits diverge within the stalk.  I'd expect
them not to diverge until the fusebox.  They'd need to be
separate within the stalk for the stalk to be implicated.

John
 
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