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Car Forum / Nissan / Nissan Cars / June 2009Honda makes first hydrogen cars
Honda makes first hydrogen cars http://www.uretima.info/2009/05/hydrogen-cars.html "...runs on electricity produced by combining hydrogen with oxygen, and emits water vapour. " There is just one problem with this model - where are they going to get the hydrogen and oxygen? Oh, I know, they crack water for it. Good. Plenty of water all over. And where does the energy to crack the water come from? Oh, we use electrolysis. And where does the electricity to do so come from? We burn fossil fuel in power plants. You know, coal and gas. Uh huh. We pollute the air to make the hydrogen and oxygen, but that is OK because the car itself does not pollute? Hydrogen (and electric) cars are a stupid idea because even though they don't pollute, generating the electricity to crack water to form their fuel, or to charge their batteries, does. </sarcasm> > Honda makes first hydrogen cars > http://www.uretima.info/2009/05/hydrogen-cars.html >> Honda makes first hydrogen cars >> http://www.uretima.info/2009/05/hydrogen-cars.html [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > ></sarcasm> Shell don't see Hydrogen being a market for many years. http://royaldutchshellplc.com/2009/03/17/shell-goes-cold-on-wind-solar-hydrogen- energy/ So don't expect any more hydrogen fuel stations to be opening up any time soon. If you run out then you can't get a fill up from a jerry can but will have to have be put on truck and taken to the Hydrogen filling station. As filling stations are few and far between early users may be limited to one locale. If it's not on run to / from work / shops but requires a special out the way run to get fuel, then by forcing what is basically an unnecessary journey it's an even higher waste of time, money and energy.  SignaturePeter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets! who gives a f.ck about honda ? D. >>> Honda makes first hydrogen cars >>> http://www.uretima.info/2009/05/hydrogen-cars.html [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > basically an unnecessary journey it's an even higher waste of time, > money and energy. > "...runs on electricity produced by combining hydrogen with oxygen, and > emits water vapour. " [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> Honda makes first hydrogen cars >> http://www.uretima.info/2009/05/hydrogen-cars.html Nuclear power stations + a bit of wind power + hydroelectric storage + electric cars would appear to be the future as long as they can dig holes deep enough to put the spent nuclear fuel in. The cars would have to only use a few different battery types so that you can go into a 'petrol' station and have a battery swapped rather than wait hours for it to charge. These 'petrol' stations wpuld have to have a LOT of batteries in stock though if you think how many cars pull into a station now. Or I suppose a small nuclear power plant in each vehicle, has a small one ever been made? on 5/31/2009 1:13 PM (ET) Steve wrote the following: > >> "...runs on electricity produced by combining hydrogen with oxygen, and [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > you think how many cars pull into a station now. Or I suppose a small > nuclear power plant in each vehicle, has a small one ever been made? Ford had a concept nuclear powered car back in 1957, but it was never built. http://www.absoluterandom.com/ford-nucleon-a-nuclear-powered-car-researched-in-t he-1950s/ SignatureBill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ >> "...runs on electricity produced by combining hydrogen with oxygen, and >> emits water vapour. " [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >you think how many cars pull into a station now. Or I suppose a small >nuclear power plant in each vehicle, has a small one ever been made? Quite a few are in orbit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_battery SignaturePeter Hill Spamtrap reply domain as per NNTP-Posting-Host in header Can of worms - what every fisherman wants. Can of worms - what every PC owner gets! >Hydrogen (and electric) cars are a stupid idea because even though they >don't pollute, generating the electricity to crack water to form their fuel, >or to charge their batteries, does. Hydrogen powered cars are currently a net loss environmentally because of this issue. >>Hydrogen (and electric) cars are a stupid idea because even though they >>don't pollute, generating the electricity to crack water to form their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Hydrogen powered cars are currently a net loss environmentally because > of this issue. That was kinda my point...however, the greenies absolutely love the concept. So do I, actually, except for the problem of producing hydrogen gas. Maybe one day we will figure out how to control small scale fusion reactions. While that still requires hydrogen (assuming we fuse H into He), it requires very small amounts. And understanding that technology could lead us to use other more plentiful materials. Hmm...maybe once we get the reaction started, we can syphon off some of the energy to crack water for more hydrogen to fuel the reaction? Then, we would truely have a car that runs on water. |
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