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'92 Nissan O2 Sensor replacement

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Plague Boy - 02 Jun 2009 12:22 GMT
Well, Rock Auto had a special on the O2 sensor for my '92 Sentra
w/1.6L gas engine, so I said, "Why not? 177K it probably would
not hurt."

    Except I cannot remove the old sensor. I've been spraying it
with Liquid Wrench for about two weeks, and I went to remove it
yesterday. No dice. I have a 7/8" O2 socket, but it doesn't get a
good "grip". The corners are starting to round over on the sensor.

    The replacement sensor is almost spark-plug like, but the old
one's flats are not as high, and it sits in another little plug
(like a reducer bushing, which I presume is welded to the
manifold) and there is not much room to get any kind of tool on it.

    I can live without the new sensor; I just don't want to break
the old one and not be able to replace it.

    Any hints or tips?
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willshak - 02 Jun 2009 14:15 GMT
on 6/2/2009 7:22 AM (ET) Plague Boy wrote the following:
> Well, Rock Auto had a special on the O2 sensor for my '92 Sentra
> w/1.6L gas engine, so I said, "Why not? 177K it probably would not hurt."
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>     Any hints or tips?

http://free-auto-repair-advice.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-remove-oxygen-sensor.html

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Plague Boy - 04 Jun 2009 12:21 GMT
> on 6/2/2009 7:22 AM (ET) Plague Boy wrote the following:
>> Well, Rock Auto had a special on the O2 sensor for my '92 Sentra
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> http://free-auto-repair-advice.blogspot.com/2007/07/how-to-remove-oxygen-sensor.html 

    Thanks! I will try the freeze spray. The webpage links to
www.tooldiscounter.com. It looks like they have all kinds of cool
tools; anybody have any experience with them?

    I may order the O2 remover; I may have to do the 02 on my
Hyundai as well (error code). Kill two bird....

    I think I remembered how I dealt with this last time; I used a
spark plug socket-fed the wire out the drive recess, and put a
wrench on the flats of the socket.

    I think a thinwall 12 point socket would get a better grip on
the sensor, the one I have is chamfered and doesn't really get
much "bite".

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willshak - 04 Jun 2009 13:32 GMT
on 6/4/2009 7:21 AM (ET) Plague Boy wrote the following:
>> on 6/2/2009 7:22 AM (ET) Plague Boy wrote the following:
>>> Well, Rock Auto had a special on the O2 sensor for my '92 Sentra
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>     I think a thinwall 12 point socket would get a better grip on the
> sensor, the one I have is chamfered and doesn't really get much "bite".

You would be better with a 6 point socket. It would be less likely to
round off the shoulders of the sensor, or bolts in general. For that
matter, I don't know why they make 12 point sockets. The only reason I
can think of is that there is less fiddling to get it on the bolt in
cramped spaces.
Anyone have a better reason for 12 points, rather than 6 point sockets?

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E. Meyer - 04 Jun 2009 14:10 GMT
On 6/4/09 7:32 AM, in article
WoydnZS7CJBEI7rXnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@supernews.com, "willshak"

> on 6/4/2009 7:21 AM (ET) Plague Boy wrote the following:
>>> on 6/2/2009 7:22 AM (ET) Plague Boy wrote the following:
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> cramped spaces.
> Anyone have a better reason for 12 points, rather than 6 point sockets?

Nope.  6-point is the way to go.  When I changed the O2 on the '91 240sx for
the first time at age 13, all it took was to cut the wire & use a good 6
point socket with a 2 foot cheater bar on the end of the breaker bar.  It
had rust-welded the outermost ring of the threads & the first 1/4 inch of
the outermost thread simply broke off & came out as part of the old sensor.

If the op has similar rust welding going on, forget about saving the old
sensor.  You need leverage.
me - 05 Jun 2009 04:17 GMT
>You would be better with a 6 point socket. It would be less likely to
>round off the shoulders of the sensor, or bolts in general. For that
>matter, I don't know why they make 12 point sockets. The only reason I
>can think of is that there is less fiddling to get it on the bolt in
>cramped spaces.
>Anyone have a better reason for 12 points, rather than 6 point sockets?

There are very few justifications for 12 point sockets. If you are
using a socket, you are using a ratchet 95% of the time, so the extra
points do nothing but give you less grip. For the few times you use a
breaker bar, 6 points are the way to go and the 12 point is definitely
useless.

The only exceptions are times when you really need a breaker bar and
you just can't do the angle with a 6pt; or for 12 point bolts (there
are some used on a few cars).

TO the OP - if an oxy sensor socket won't do it, you can buy 6 pt deep
impact wrench sockets and do it that way. You'll need to sacrifice the
wires.
Peter Hill - 02 Jun 2009 17:28 GMT
>Well, Rock Auto had a special on the O2 sensor for my '92 Sentra
>w/1.6L gas engine, so I said, "Why not? 177K it probably would
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>    Any hints or tips?

Put a jubilee clip round the socket to stop it splaying open.
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Plague Boy - 04 Jun 2009 12:24 GMT
<can't remove sensor>

>>     Any hints or tips?
>
> Put a jubilee clip round the socket to stop it splaying open.

.... Jubilee clip? I'm not sure what that is. If it's similar to
a stainless steel hose clamp, I tried that already. But I don't
think the socket is splaying open, I think it's riding up over
the corners of the flats.

    Thank you, and correct me if I have misunderstood you.
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Peter Hill - 04 Jun 2009 17:33 GMT
><can't remove sensor>
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>    Thank you, and correct me if I have misunderstood you.

Sorry yes Jubilee = brand name of British hose clip, used generically
just like Hoover.

All the O2 sensor sockets I've seen are full hex with one side cut out
for the wire. If it rides over the corners then a 12 point will too.
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