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How best to disable car to prevent theft?

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sloughboy - 05 Sep 2004 00:22 GMT
My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
wire. i guess i should take the entire distributor cap? or maybe just the
fuse out of fuse box or one of the main relays?
Louis - 05 Sep 2004 06:48 GMT
> My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
> it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
> wire. i guess i should take the entire distributor cap? or maybe just the
> fuse out of fuse box or one of the main relays?

You can always remove the fuel pump fuse to disable it.
Steve T - 05 Sep 2004 07:20 GMT
> My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
> it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
> wire. i guess i should take the entire distributor cap?

Rotor button. Then there is nothing obviously missing.
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sloughboy - 05 Sep 2004 08:00 GMT
or i might blow a fuse or relay and use it when i leave car. that way they
would have to take hours to diagnose what is wrong.
sloughboy - 05 Sep 2004 09:00 GMT
or i might blow a fuse or relay and use it when i leave car. that way they
would have to take hours to diagnose what is wrong.
Meat-->Plow - 05 Sep 2004 16:32 GMT
>My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
>it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
>wire. i guess i should take the entire distributor cap? or maybe just the
>fuse out of fuse box or one of the main relays?

Take the steering wheel off.
Bill Schnakenberg - 05 Sep 2004 17:44 GMT
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>Take the steering wheel off.
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It works for Mr. Bean. The padlocked hasp and staple on his car door is
a further deterrent.
Peter Hill - 05 Sep 2004 18:00 GMT
>>My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
>>it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
>>wire. i guess i should take the entire distributor cap? or maybe just the
>>fuse out of fuse box or one of the main relays?
>
>Take the steering wheel off.

Nothing can stop someone with a tow truck or car hoist on to a
platform truck.  They have even been known to hoist cars over 6ft
walls from secure private property.  Gone in 60 seconds.

Only way to stop them is to park it on an island protected by blimps
in the middle of an underfed piranha filled lake with a drawbridge in
the causeway to it.  OK maybe overkill, garage with cast concrete
walls and roof, with a steel bar reinforced door bolted from the
inside into steel frame may do.

Fit a tracker or other GPS locator so the car should be found and
maybe perp and the fence with it.

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Meat-->Plow - 06 Sep 2004 14:49 GMT
>>>My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
>>>it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
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>platform truck.  They have even been known to hoist cars over 6ft
>walls from secure private property.  Gone in 60 seconds.

Nobody can prevent the theft of your vehicle if someone
wants to tow it away. Really isn't rocket science to figure
that out. However the Subject was how to BEST disable a
vehicle. That meaning deterring the casual thief from
smashing a window, popping out your ignition lock and
driving away. And although I was being facetious when I
said remove the steering wheel, that could deter some street
thugs.
DS - 26 Sep 2004 01:43 GMT
I have an alarm that kills the starter. I also put in a switch that defeats
the fuel pump. This switch is well hidden. Of course, if someone really
wants it, it's gone.

Dave

> >>My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
> >>it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
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> Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
> Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
brentlz - 29 Sep 2004 04:59 GMT
Any alarm, club, etc. will just keep the honest people honest...if they
really want it, it it theirs: I had ign cut, electric fuel pump cut(had
a LZ24/L20B hybrid transplant), alarm, & hydraulic brake lock on my late
departed '71 510...the bastard still got it.

Brent.

> I have an alarm that kills the starter. I also put in a switch that defeats
> the fuel pump. This switch is well hidden. Of course, if someone really
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> > Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
> > Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
NissTech - 05 Sep 2004 22:42 GMT
locate and remove the ECCS relay, that relay powers up the ECM.

No power to the ECM , no running of the car.

> My 240sx was stolen yesterday in vancouver, canada. i did have a club on
> it. from wheel to gas pedal. when i go camping i always take the ignition
> wire. i guess i should take the entire distributor cap? or maybe just the
> fuse out of fuse box or one of the main relays?
Bill Schnakenberg - 05 Sep 2004 23:34 GMT
>locate and remove the ECCS relay, that relay powers up the ECM.
>
>No power to the ECM , no running of the car.
>  

When I bought my 93 Nissan Sentra back in 93, there was an anti-theft
device mounted on the bottom of the steering column. It was a dealer
theft deterrent, in other words, so that the vehicle could not be stolen
from the dealership lot. All of their vehicles had the same anti-theft
device installed. It was kinda like a 1-1/2" wide computer card slot
with wires running from the botton to under the dash, that needed a
1-1/2" wide x 1-1/2" 'card' inserted in order to start the car. I kept
the anti-theft device, but never used it (removed the 'card'). Now, they
told me that if the 'card' was lost, I could not start the car until I
took the Serial# of the vehicle to the dealer and had a new one made,
since they were not interchangeable.
When I got a new car in 97, I gave the Sentra to my daughter. Since I
nerver used the 'card', I didn't tell her about it. One day she comes in
and says she can't start the car. I go out and find the 'card' laying on
the floor. I put it back in and off she went.
I have bought 2 cars from the same dealer since 1993, and they did not
have the anti-theft device. I wonder if they are still available?
Otherwise, perhaps a simple SPST switch tapped into the main ignition
switch wire, and hidden under the dash would work as well.


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sloughboy - 08 Sep 2004 07:06 GMT
police phoned to say car was found with ignition smashed and radio gone
about 35 kms away in another part of vancouver. have not looked at it.
Chuck Tribolet - 09 Sep 2004 00:18 GMT
Go get it right away.  The storage charges mount up fast.

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> police phoned to say car was found with ignition smashed and radio gone
> about 35 kms away in another part of vancouver. have not looked at it.
sloughboy - 09 Sep 2004 04:15 GMT
it's 120 bucks so far. 8.91 per day. it is amazing how much people make off
of car theft.
Chuck Tribolet - 09 Sep 2004 05:46 GMT
That's dirt cheap.  My GF's Honda Hurricane (motorcycle) was stolen, and it was over
$200 just in the time it took a letter to get to her.  And it turned out it was just the frame
and block.

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> it's 120 bucks so far. 8.91 per day. it is amazing how much people make off
> of car theft.
Peter Hill - 09 Sep 2004 16:52 GMT
>That's dirt cheap.  My GF's Honda Hurricane (motorcycle) was stolen, and it was over
>$200 just in the time it took a letter to get to her.  And it turned out it was just the frame
>and block.

The only parts with traceable identification numbers.

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Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
BuZzY - 24 Sep 2004 08:47 GMT
How would you all recommend dealing with a car thief-? Machine gunning
him or bludgeoning him with a pipe-?  Both-?

I caught a young chap one dark night fooling with my car and approached
him with a pistol.  I played the part to the hilt, and after a couple of
seconds the little bastard lowered his hands and laughed-!  He said,
"Dude, you ain' gonna shoot me. You can' afford it.  I'm gonna walk
away."  What balls-! (Ever thrown down on somebody-?  With a weapon that
was big enough to tear off someone's head-?  I could barely see for the
stars in my eyes and the hyperventilation.)  I kept the Colt pointed at
his chest but watched stupidly as he picked up his tools and left.

You guessed it: he walked away calmly and climbed in an unseen car and
they roared off, lights extinguished.  I felt like a fuckin' idiot.
But: he is correct.  I just wouldn't waste a guy for filching a damned
old van.  In our state, when you kill a boogyman, his family immediately
sues and nobody but the lawyers win.

I couldn't sleep all night.  A couple of bored cops came by after 1.5
hours and commended me for not shooting him, reminding me that one is
free to blow the hell out of anyone who crosses his threshhold.  The
steering column was trashed, but it wasn't considered a theft because
the "vee-hicle was not moved."  Not even worth the trouble to report it
or file a claim.

Maybe I should have shot the guy after all and tossed a cheap pistol on
the ground next to him.  I hear the cops have throwdown pieces in their
trunks.

Any other wussies out there-?  Catching a perp ain't the experience I
thought it would be.

>>That's dirt cheap.  My GF's Honda Hurricane (motorcycle) was stolen, and it was over
>>$200 just in the time it took a letter to get to her.  And it turned out it was just the frame
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> Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
> Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
Chuck Tribolet - 25 Sep 2004 02:24 GMT
How would I recommend dealing with a car thief?  It was my
post you responded to.

There was never a thief to deal with when my GF's bike was stolen.
We were out of town for the weekend, she found it gone when she
got home late Sunday night.  So in my case the point was moot.

He picked up his tools?  Crowbar?  That's a deadly weapon.  BANG!

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Silicon Valley: STILL the best day job in the world.

> How would you all recommend dealing with a car thief-? Machine gunning
> him or bludgeoning him with a pipe-?  Both-?
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> > Can of worms - what every fisherman wants.
> > Can of worms - what every PC owner gets!
reddave1999 - 25 Sep 2004 18:43 GMT
no you did the right thing by not shooting the little prick. but, you could
crush the bastards hands or legs. it's too bad the criminal has more rights
than the victim!
BuZzY - 29 Sep 2004 04:06 GMT
It is true.  car theft / vandalism is so damned common that it barely
elicits a response from the local cops.

The thief's tools looked like a couple of screwdrivers, a narrow putty
knife, etc. in a shop rag.  I can't remember because the adreneline made
me blind for a sec.  Cottonmouth.  Weird.  Pointing a hogleg at someone
ain't as cool as it sounds.  BUT--I like the idea considering his tools
as weapons.  Still, though, in the final analysis...I would hate to cap
a guy over an old Dodge van, even if he IS a scum-f.ck.  Guess I'm
getting a little soft in my AARP years.

A local independent hardware store nearby [in the barrio] has
battery-powered reciprocating chopsaws for sale--not great ones
(Milwaukee, Makita, etc.) but cheesy versions.  Under the glass counter.
 Looks like a great way to saw out an auto CD deck.

Time for my tranquilizer. Ahhhhhhhhh...

> no you did the right thing by not shooting the little prick. but, you could
> crush the bastards hands or legs. it's too bad the criminal has more rights
> than the victim!
 
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