Hello!
I have a 1990 Delta 88. The rear driver's side door is
stuck closed. It has been like that for some months now,
but now I need to be able to open it to install a roof
rack...
There is not as much sound from the broken door as there
is from the working door when the switch is moved to the
unlock position (it sounds like there are more mechanical
things happening on the working door). The lock/unlock
lever does get pushed up and down by the power lock, so I
don't think the breakage is in the inside lever area.
There is not as much resistance on the inside door open
lever and on the outside door open button as I seem to
feel on the working door (both locked and unlocked).
I've removed the plastic plate behind the inside door
lever and can see the lock/unlock linkage and the door
open linkage. They appear to be attached to the inside
door lever properly.
I also removed two screws that hold the door panel, but
with the door being closed, I can't remove the panel
itself. I don't know if there are other fastners that I
can't access, or if the door being closed is preventing
that from happening.
I actually have the Olds factory service manual, but the
door section is less helpful than other sections I've
read. I can't figure out how to remove the door trim
with the door closed, and I can't open the door without
getting the trim off (well, maybe I can't figure out how
to open it with the trim off either :P ).
Does anyone have ideas how I can open the door at all?
And even better would be how I can fix the door so that
it will open in the future. :)
Thanks in advance,
Andre
Silver Surfer - 25 Jul 2005 22:02 GMT
I had the exact same problem on a 1987 LeSabre. A person on one of these
groups gave me the fix. Get some WD40 or the equivalent and saturate the
heck out of the inside workings using the red tube that comes with the can
to direct the stuff through the door button opening with the button
depressed to where it will do the most good. Work the handles afterward in
hopes of getting the door open. Might take a couple of generous
applications.
> Hello!
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> Andre
Andre - 25 Jul 2005 22:14 GMT
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll go give that a try now...
I'm somewhat concerned though that I may have a different
problem. Pushing on the door button has very little
resistance and makes me think something is broken inside
rather than just rusted shut.
One thing I'll add is that the night the door stopped
opening, it had been opened just a few hours beforehand.
Not sure what difference that bit of information might
make. :P
Andre
Brian - 03 Aug 2005 03:19 GMT
I hellped a friend with a similar problem on an 87 Sunbird. It seems the
plastic part in the lock mechinism has gotten wedged and would not move with
the handle. We went through the inside and unscrewed the striking pin (T-47
torx driver, same as seatbelt bolt) you could do that as a last resort if
the WD-40 doesn't work
Andre - 25 Jul 2005 22:59 GMT
Okay, while drowning the inside of the door in WD40, I made
a further diagnosis... I think that whatever gets engaged
when the door lever is pulled or when the outside button is
pushed is not being sprung back.
This is based on a comparison with a working door. If I
hold the button on the working door, the inside lever feels
the same as that on the broken door. If I hold the lever
of the working door, the button feels the same as that on
the broken door. If I pull the lever or push the button on
the working door, attempting to unlock it feels incomplete
(it's missing the final resounding click) just like the
broken door.
Now if only I can get at the actual mechanical bits...
Andre
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> Andre
Silver Surfer - 25 Jul 2005 23:47 GMT
Your symptoms are the same as mine. One last step I forgot to mention was
the need to whack the door handle a couple of good ones with a rubber
mallet. Restraint is in order here as you don't want to do any damage to
the door skin in the process.
> Okay, while drowning the inside of the door in WD40, I made
> a further diagnosis... I think that whatever gets engaged
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>> Andre
Andre - 26 Jul 2005 00:59 GMT
Rubber mallet! Well, not having one, I used the palm of my
hand, and lo and behold, the door opens! Thank you so much
for your help!
I'm still working more grease in there, but right now, if I
attempt to open the door while it is locked, I need to pull
out my rubber mallet (aka my wrist) again in order to unlock
it. I assume that it's just a matter of getting more grease
to really unstick whatever it was that was stuck?
Thanks again for your help!
Andre
Andre - 26 Jul 2005 01:02 GMT
> Rubber mallet! Well, not having one, I used the palm of my
> hand, and lo and behold, the door opens! Thank you so much
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> it. I assume that it's just a matter of getting more grease
> to really unstick whatever it was that was stuck?
Oh yeah, it appears that I have to remove seals and such to
get the trim off, and I'm afraid that I would put that back
wrong, so I'm shying away from that option right now, and just
spraying more WD40 in there (I know it's too thin to be a good
long term solution though).
Andre