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Car Forum / Oldsmobile Cars / June 2004

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87/88 Olds SW (custom Cruiser), sign ...

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Lee Bowman - 17 May 2004 22:17 GMT
Why the sigh?  My wife fell in love with an 87 Custom Cruiser (body
and interior mint, engine opposite).  She paid $1500 for it w/o asking
me, and told me to "fix it". (She's moved out, living with another
guy, and driving my car.  I'm renting a car to get by, temporarily).
Why, you may ask?  Divorce is a possibility, along with taking the
house & kids, yada yada.  So for various reasons, I'll accomodate.
Anyone out there with knowlege of that or similar GM models that can
help me out will be greatly appreciated!

Let me outline a few things.  The engine is the standard 350 with four
barrel carb.  Though the title says 87, the emissions diagragm in
Chilton's that matches is labeled 88-90 Olds 307 (shows the solenoid
assy with 6 tubing connections, where the 85-87 diagragm does not).

It has failed Arizona emmissions several times prior to now, with
marginally high NO2 (I will clean EGR valve, and possibly replace CAT
convertor).

I noticed that all the rubber emissions tubing was cracked, so I
replaced all.  Also noticed that the Air Switching Solenoid and Air
Control Solenoid seem to be missing, and there are 2,3, & 4 conductor
connectors laying loose on the left side of carbuertor.  I realize
that the manual I have (for Buick/Olds/Pontiac 75-90) has not got
enough specific information for this model to correctly assess and fix
the emissions stuff, but will try to obtain the specific manual, or
get some copies of the emissions section if possible.

An immediate problem was that it wouldn't always start.  Then it
wouldn't start at all, but it was in my driveway.  I checked, and no
spark (but  +12 is present at 'bat' term).  I pulled the HEI cap,
ohmed the HV coil, and found the primary intermittenly open (sometimes
near zero ohms, sometimes open).  I also ohmed the pickup coil (860
ohm, but leakage to ground of around 3 meg ohm; should be 'none').  I
replaced the coil, and reassembled, but although it tried to start,
would not.  I then pulled the four plugs on right side (left side
impossible), connected to harness and cranked.  The observed spark was
red and weak (.069 gap on plugs, battery up to 14 volts), rather than
blue and snappy.

Question:  Could a pickup coil leaking a little to ground cause that?
(I could replace it for $50, but the entire distributor is in bad
shape (sluggish advance due to rust and scale inside), or buy a
rebuilt for $120.

I don't question that a replacement distributor is a no brainer, but
I'm wondering if I can ever figure out what emissions stuff is
missing, and even be able to find replacements.  Whether it'll be
worth it to invest all that time, as well as possibly replacing the
oxygen sensor, CAT convertor, and possibly even a rebuilt 4 barrel
carb (if available).

To summarize,

1:  Marginal pickkup coil cause weak spark?
2:  More detailed emissions diagragms available for that model?
3:  Decent shop manual available?
4:  Actual emmisions devices available for that model anymore?
5:  Rebuilt 4 barrell available for reasonable amount?

and finally ...
6:  Is it even worth it?

Thanx in advance for ANY info, even condolences.

Lee Bowman
midnite - 24 Jun 2004 22:38 GMT
the gap on the plugs may be too wide. i have an 87 cutlass cruiser and just
did my plugs. i was told that 0.60 was the perfect gap size. as far as the
rest im looking for similiar info.

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