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Car Forum / Oldsmobile Cars / October 20041990 Olds Royale dies/ cranks, wont restart for awhile
Our car will drive just peachy for a day or two, then it just dies without warning. When it dies, it cranks but wont start. We have found that if we wait an hour or more it starts right up again. It has not started after I?ve parked it to run in someplace. I?ve also parked it, run into a store, started it right up just fine... but then it died as I was pulling out of the parking space. It?s died when I was making a turn from a stop sign, while going through a school zone, while driving along down a hill, and also while sitting at a red traffic light. It has died in all kinds of weather. It has died after driving for a couple of days, and has died after driving for 15 minutes. We?ve taken it to our local garage a few times already and they can?t seem to figure out what it is. They?ve checked fuel injection and filters... even changed our actual fuel in case it was bad gasoline. They?ve done a tune up and cleaned things up. Anyone have a similar experience and find out what was wrong? Thanks a bunch in advance! Jwlz Your symptoms scream crank sensor. Thanks for your response. We took the car back to the mechanic and told him to check the crank sensor... and low and behold he says that DOES appear to be the problem. We should get the car back today. I?ll post again for an update once we drive it for a little while and see how things go. Thanks again for the guidance! Jwlz > Our car will drive just peachy for a day or two, then it just dies > without warning. When it dies, it cranks but wont start. We have found > that if we wait an hour or more it starts right up again. It has not > started after I?ve parked it to run in someplace. I?ve > also parked it, run into a store, started it right up just fine... but > then it died as I was pulling out of the parking space. It?s > died when I was making a turn from a stop sign, while going through a > school zone, while driving along down a hill, and also while sitting > at a red traffic light. It has died in all kinds of weather. It has > died after driving for a couple of days, and has died after driving [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > can?t seem to figure out what it is. They?ve checked fuel > injection and filters... even changed our actual fuel in case it was > bad gasoline. They?ve done a tune up and cleaned things up. > > Anyone have a similar experience and find out what was wrong? > > Thanks a bunch in advance! > Jwlz Well, BAD news. The mechanic replaced our crank sensor and says it still stalls. BLAH! Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance. Jwlz > Our car will drive just peachy for a day or two, then it just dies > without warning. When it dies, it cranks but wont start. We have found > that if we wait an hour or more it starts right up again. It has not > started after I?ve parked it to run in someplace. I?ve > also parked it, run into a store, started it right up just fine... but > then it died as I was pulling out of the parking space. It?s > died when I was making a turn from a stop sign, while going through a > school zone, while driving along down a hill, and also while sitting > at a red traffic light. It has died in all kinds of weather. It has > died after driving for a couple of days, and has died after driving [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > can?t seem to figure out what it is. They?ve checked fuel > injection and filters... even changed our actual fuel in case it was > bad gasoline. They?ve done a tune up and cleaned things up. > > Anyone have a similar experience and find out what was wrong? > > Thanks a bunch in advance! > Jwlz Well, BAD news. The mechanic replaced our crank sensor and says it still stalls. BLAH! Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance. Jwlz Just an update. As I said, the crankshaft sensor was replaced and the car died as soon as they started it up. Well, after some further research on the I-net, I asked them to check out the Ignition Relay/Module. They found that to be faulty and replaced the Ignition Module. We drove the car all weekend and it seems to be doing great now! Woohoo! No stalls or trouble starting the car at all anymore. So, I?m not sure if it needed BOTH the crankshaft sensor and the ignition... but after having them both replaced, it seems to be fixed now. Jwlz I am so happy for you. I drive a '91 Oldsmobile Ninety Eight and have had no major problems as of yet. I have about 185,000 miles and am keeping my fingers crossed! > Just an update. As I said, the crankshaft sensor was replaced and the > car died as soon as they started it up. Well, after some further [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jwlz This sort of sounds like the same thing that happened to my mother's 90 Pontiac Bonneville - same 3.8 engine as in my 89 Olds. This just started happening last week - it was running fine, I filed it with gas, then went out of town in another car. She drove it to work with no problems, then on the way home it stalled at a light. She was able to restart it and drive a couple of miles, then at a light it stalled again. It would crank but not start. She had to be towed home. A few days later, it started again for me and I drove it a couple of miles at night. The next day I started it up and drove it about 10 miles. It stalled at a light, then started up again. I got it over to a Ford dealer to pick up some parts for another car, then it wouldn't start for the drive home. The towtruck operator thought it might be the fuel pump. The next day, I started up the car and it ran for about 20 minutes and then stalled. It started right up then died in 10 minutes. I let it cool off a bit, then gigled with the throttle linkage, then it started up again. SO I was wondering if this was the Throttle Position Sensor? The car is leaking oil from the valve cover gaskets, and I plan to replace those. I doubt the car has been tuned in years, but the plugs are Autolite Platinums (not OE). I shorted the diagnostic plug and checked for any saved codes, but there were none. SO I wonderer how the Crankshaft Sensor could be at fault if there were no codes generated? Could it be the fuel pump dying, or the fuel filter being clogged? I was gonna try and replace the fuel filter, but it is really rusted on the lines, and I don't have the proper wrenches to break the filter free from the lines. I had thought maybe the coil pack would be at fault - so I bought a new coil, wires and plugs, and am gonna replace them since any garage I take it to would do that anyway. Any suggestions? Chris > Just an update. As I said, the crankshaft sensor was replaced and the > car died as soon as they started it up. Well, after some further [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jwlz The ignition relay module - is this the engine computer or the coil pack? > Just an update. As I said, the crankshaft sensor was replaced and the > car died as soon as they started it up. Well, after some further [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Jwlz > The ignition relay module - is this the engine computer or the coil pack? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Jwlz I have the same car, but fortunately not the same problems. Mine has stalled a couple of times. I fixed it by spraying a little WD-40 on the throttle linkage:) -- Norm |
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