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Car Forum / Oldsmobile Cars / December 2003

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Alero rotor problem

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Werz Mungle - 02 Sep 2003 22:39 GMT
Does it affect all 4 disc brakes or only the front?
Is rust build up on brakes a common problem?
Thanks for any info.
The Mysterious Ones - 13 Nov 2003 21:34 GMT
I had to replace the stock rotors with a heavier duty set of rotors on the
front of my Alero. The stock ones would overheat and warp causing a pulse in
the brake pedal when the brakes were applied. The newer ones work great and
will most likely last forever. Pricy though!! I think I paid over three
hundred big ones for the two new rotors at Canadian Tire.
Phrederik - 13 Nov 2003 22:54 GMT
> I had to replace the stock rotors with a heavier duty set of rotors on the
> front of my Alero. The stock ones would overheat and warp causing a pulse in
> the brake pedal when the brakes were applied. The newer ones work great and
> will most likely last forever. Pricy though!! I think I paid over three
> hundred big ones for the two new rotors at Canadian Tire.

WHY would you buy *ANYTHING* from Canadian Tire?
The Mysterious Ones - 14 Nov 2003 01:47 GMT
Well....I have had no problems with their stuff. I know for a fact that most
of their stuff including auto parts are made by regular companies like
Firestone and Bridgestone. TRW and other well known companies. It just sells
under a different name.
Phrederik - 14 Nov 2003 05:14 GMT
> Well....I have had no problems with their stuff. I know for a fact that most
> of their stuff including auto parts are made by regular companies like
> Firestone and Bridgestone. TRW and other well known companies. It just sells
> under a different name.

They buy the rejects from other companies...

Eg. The Canadian Tire brand of tires are made using worn out Goodyear, etc.
molds.
The Mysterious Ones - 14 Nov 2003 20:22 GMT
No, don't say that! Can Tire is a well liked and reputable company whom have
shared many good years in Canada with the do it yourselfer!
Phrederick - 14 Nov 2003 22:42 GMT
> No, don't say that! Can Tire is a well liked and reputable company whom have
> shared many good years in Canada with the do it yourselfer!

My family and I have had too many cars RUINED by Canadian tire.

...one example:

I took my car (~87 Buick Electra) to Canadian Tire to have the thermostat
replaced as I didn't have time to do it myself. They did it (took them all
day) and I drove the car home. During the drive I thought it smelled funny,
but put it to spilled coolant during the job. When I got home and got out of
the car the smell was strong... I opened the hood and found cooland
everywhere. There wasn't one tight clamp or bolt on anything that they
touched!!! Most of the coolant was gone and it was a mess under the hood. I
called the manager and let him know what happened and you know what he said?
"Drive it back and we'll tighten it up"

What kind of moron tells a customer to drive the car back now that it has no
coolant so they can tighten the clamps. He didn't even sound surprised.

... I got more stories, but most folks who've dealt with Canadian tire
already know where I'm coming from.
Steve G - 15 Nov 2003 03:45 GMT
Your complaint definately speaks to the quality of the personal, not to the
products they sell.  If you want to hear horror stories about quality of
work and have a half a day I'll tell you all about my experiences at one of
the best known Olds dealerships in Winnipeg from when my Aurora was still on
Warranty.  The heater hose clamp they left loose was the least of the
problems I had with them.  How about when they R & R'd the trans and didn't
put the wiring harness back in place properly and cooked it against the
exhaust manifold.  Or the time they had the console apart and to replace the
cigar lighter, put it back together with the wiring harness for the light in
the shifter atached at the wrong points resulting in the breaking the light
off the shifter after it stretched the harness when it was put into Park
($1400 for a new console.) Or the time they replaced the speedo and broke
the clips on the dash bezel and put it back with tape($200). One of my
favorintes was the time after the car was off warranty and the bearing on
the ac clutch packed up.  The car had about 90,000km and they wanted to sell
me a new compressor ($1900). For some reason they had discharged the system
as well by the time they called me.  I told them to put it back together and
leave it alone. I took it to another mechanic I know and had him replace
just the bearing ($200). It's still working fine today at over 200,000km.
I've got a list longer than your arms of some of the most incredibly stupid
moves i've seen.

There's no assurance of quality workmanship anywhere, regardless of the name
over the door.  Find a good reputable mechanic and stay with him and pay him
what he's worth, regardless of whether he works for Canadian Tire, the
dealer or anyone else.
As to Canadian tire parts, most are brand name (Certified Brake Parts, Noog,
TRW, Fenco etc, the same as you'd get from any jobber.  Some are re-branded
in CTC's name because of the volume they sell. Many auto shops used to run
down their products because CTC was retailing to the public at the prices
the dealers were buying for.  Years ago they sold the lesser quality name
brands (your econo muffler or brakes), but now all of the jobbers offer the
economy quality as well as the premium quality and Canadian Tire offers the
premium as well as the lesser.  Almost every manufacturer markets 2 or more
levels of product these days.
BTW, I'm a licensed mechanic that worked in the trade for 15 years, but have
been out of it for 17, so I have some idea of what I speak.

> > No, don't say that! Can Tire is a well liked and reputable company whom
> have
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> ... I got more stories, but most folks who've dealt with Canadian tire
> already know where I'm coming from.
ZoSo - 04 Dec 2003 16:46 GMT
> I had to replace the stock rotors with a heavier duty set of rotors
> on the front of my Alero. The stock ones would overheat and warp
> causing a pulse in the brake pedal when the brakes were applied. The

Overheating is not usually the cause unless you've been road racing on mountainous twisties.

The common causes of the warping are the jerks who tighten your lug nuts way over spec.
If you didn't see the tech snug them up and then use a torque wrench in the 'every other nut' pattern, and instead just hammered them straight down with an air wrench, that's what caused the warping.

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