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Howard - 05 Jun 2004 16:47 GMT
Does Peugeot have plans for returning to the US market?  They exited the
market in the 1990's, I believe.  True, their vehicles were notorious for
poor reliability, but offered an alternative to the German and Japanese
imports.  Has the quality of their vehicles improved to the point where they
can compete in a market where they will not have protectionist tariffs?  If
so, I'd like to see them on American roads again.
Nigel - 05 Jun 2004 19:14 GMT
>Does Peugeot have plans for returning to the US market?  They exited the
>market in the 1990's, I believe.  True, their vehicles were notorious for
>poor reliability, but offered an alternative to the German and Japanese
>imports.  Has the quality of their vehicles improved to the point where they
>can compete in a market where they will not have protectionist tariffs?  If
>so, I'd like to see them on American roads again.

It was in the paper here in January, that Peugeot, Citroen and Renault
can no longer afford to ignore the American market, and aim to get
back in by (I think) 2008.
Guillaume BERTRAND - 05 Jun 2004 21:16 GMT
We hear rumours a little everywhere. It could be that Renault or Peugeot
purchase the old GM factory in Montreal (QC - Boisbriand).
But if you want, you can buy a Peugeot motorcycle in USA ! -
http://www.mypeugeotscooter.com  -

> Does Peugeot have plans for returning to the US market?  They exited the
> market in the 1990's, I believe.  True, their vehicles were notorious for
> poor reliability, but offered an alternative to the German and Japanese
> imports.  Has the quality of their vehicles improved to the point where they
> can compete in a market where they will not have protectionist tariffs?  If
> so, I'd like to see them on American roads again.
G.T - 06 Jun 2004 11:00 GMT
Hi,

> We hear rumours a little everywhere. It could be that Renault or Peugeot
> purchase the old GM factory in Montreal (QC - Boisbriand).
I've heard of such things nearly one year ago, but I still don't know more.
I know a version of the 407 (codename D2) has been developped for the US /
Northern America market, called D2Z, but I've read here that it was
canceled.

> But if you want, you can buy a Peugeot motorcycle in USA ! -
> http://www.mypeugeotscooter.com  -
Was true, but they do not import them anymore, according to their homepage,
but you can still order spareparts.
Oh, they did the same with cars, as they also kept their US affiliate.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
G.T - 06 Jun 2004 11:07 GMT
Hi,

> Does Peugeot have plans for returning to the US market?  They exited the
Not in a near future I'm affraid.

> market in the 1990's, I believe.  True, their vehicles were notorious for
True, '90 or '91.

> poor reliability, but offered an alternative to the German and Japanese
That's strange, as here, in Europe they have an outstanding reliability.
True 505s and 405s needed a correct servicing, with oil changes every 7,000
or 10,000km I think.

> imports.  Has the quality of their vehicles improved to the point where they
> can compete in a market where they will not have protectionist tariffs?  If
Quality really improved - no more rattles in dashboards, chassis are as good
as they were, engines are as good, too. There are some problems with
embeeded electronics, but they tend to disappear.

> so, I'd like to see them on American roads again.
Sure I'd be pleased, too. I still can't understand why VW sells Jetta's
(known as Passat here), Golf's and Pug did not sell many 405s.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
Androo - 16 Jul 2004 12:15 GMT
> > Does Peugeot have plans for returning to the US market?  They exited the
> Not in a near future I'm affraid.
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>
> > poor reliability,

The JD Power survey carries a little more clout in the US, so they will have
to do better than they do in the UK when it comes to quality of service in
particular.

But I would've thought the 407 would go down well in the US since it looks
like a typical US-designed sedan. Perhaps that's why it looks like it looks.

Androo
G.T - 17 Jul 2004 09:56 GMT
Hi,

> The JD Power survey carries a little more clout in the US, so they will have
> to do better than they do in the UK when it comes to quality of service in
> particular.
I agree, the service quality may be disastreous. Certainly the worst aspect
of Peugeot.

> But I would've thought the 407 would go down well in the US since it looks
> like a typical US-designed sedan. Perhaps that's why it looks like it looks.
The 407, while in development was called D2. The project had a variant
called D2Z, which was a US specs 407. AFAIK (but keep in mind I don't work
for Peugeot, so I can't tell you if it's true, or the reasons why) D2Z
development was stopped, and the car release canceled.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
Norbert - 18 Jul 2004 15:36 GMT
Quality is a downside of Peugeot. They build fun cars, have good engines -
but the interior lacks quality compared to eg. VW. The same is true for the
suspension. Mine had to be renewed after only about 10k miles.
Bill Freeman - 30 Jul 2004 02:01 GMT
       Peugeot also has to compete in the U.S. with all the Japanese and
Korean autos.  A very tough market to break into with enough dealers with
enough knowledge and spares.   Mitsuibishi  and VW are having a hard time ..
. let alone Volvo, SAAB & Jaguar.  Then there is financing.  How do you
compete with O percent financing that US and Oriental brands offer?   Why
bother when such a substantial investment is required for such a small
return?  A possible way might be the Nissan route that Regie Renault took.
Nissan is selling very well .. . with Renault management.  Perhaps Peugeot
could do the same with Mitsuibishi .. . if they could find someone to field
Mitsuibishi's debt.

> Quality is a downside of Peugeot. They build fun cars, have good engines -
> but the interior lacks quality compared to eg. VW. The same is true for the
> suspension. Mine had to be renewed after only about 10k miles.
 
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