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206 radio - asks for code every start

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Robert - 30 Aug 2004 13:20 GMT
Hi,

   I just bought a 206 for my wife, the radio asks for the code every time
she starts the engine. I have checked all the usual things like fuses and
connectors and they are all fine. The only bit I haven't got to yet is the
dash display which seems to be in the path of the power. The radio works
fine once the code is entered. Has anyone had the same problem and cured it?
The 206 is a 99 model and the radio is a Blaupunkt 2040.

TIA
Robert
?var P?tur Gu?nason - 30 Aug 2004 13:50 GMT
Hi Robert

Same syndrome as my daughters' Hyundai! I have not finished diagnosing the
problem, but my theory is that the starter motor shorts itself out when
starting - thus drawing all available power. This results in the radio
"thinking" it has been disconnected, and asking for the code.
The same can result from a low battery and/or inadequate charging.
Hope this helps, but do keep in mind that I am still in the thinking state
:-)

Ivar Petur

> Hi,
>
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> TIA
> Robert
Robert - 30 Aug 2004 14:12 GMT
Thanks for the prompt reply Ivar, this cannot be the problem with the 206 as
it will do the same even if you don't start the car but just turn the key to
activate the radio. I suspect the link to the display but haven't got the
car to have a detailed look.

Regards
Robert

> Hi Robert
>
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> > TIA
> > Robert
Joe Soap - 30 Aug 2004 14:43 GMT
In response to what Robert <robert27@btinternet.com> posted in
news:cgv930$ffg$1@titan.btinternet.com:

> Thanks for the prompt reply Ivar, this cannot be the problem with the
> 206 as it will do the same even if you don't start the car but just
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>> > problem and cured it? The 206 is a 99 model and the radio is a
>> > Blaupunkt 2040.

The radio ought to be able to work with the ignition turned off. Does it?

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Robert - 30 Aug 2004 15:07 GMT
The radio doesn't work with the ignition turned to off, it's not supposed to
according to the manual.

> In response to what Robert <robert27@btinternet.com> posted in
> news:cgv930$ffg$1@titan.btinternet.com:
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>
> The radio ought to be able to work with the ignition turned off. Does it?
Jim Mason - 30 Aug 2004 15:16 GMT
> > >> >     I just bought a 206 for my wife, the radio asks for the code
> > >> >     every time she starts the engine. I have checked all the usual
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> >
> > The radio ought to be able to work with the ignition turned off. Does it?

> The radio doesn't work with the ignition turned to off, it's not supposed to
> according to the manual.

What year is it? My wife's 206's radio switches off when you turn off the
ignition but you are able to turn it back on by pressing the on button on
the radio.

Jim


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Dave Baker - 31 Aug 2004 01:47 GMT
>Subject: Re: 206 radio - asks for code every start
>From: Jim Mason jim.mason@spamtrappedukonline.co.uk
>Date: 30/08/04 15:16 GMT Daylight Time
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>What year is it? My wife's 206's radio switches off when you turn off the
>ignition but you are able to turn it back on by pressing the on button on
>the radio.

Well put me in a pink dress and call me Shirley. I had no idea modern radios
could do that. Tried it in the Ford Focus tonight and bugger me it works. Goes
off with the ignition but comes on again if you press the button. When you
switch the ignition on again it resets. Up till now I've left the ignition on
when the car's stopped if I wanted the radio on. Maybe I ought to read the
handbook more carefully.

Might be just a small touch but that's so bloody clever. You can leave the car
temporarily to go into a shop or something, take the key and still have the
radio on for the passengers but it won't stay on and flatten the battery at the
end of the trip. I've done that often enough with older cars when I've turned
the volume down for some reason and forgotten the radio's still on. I haven't
got a clue how the wiring for something like that works but I'm most impressed.
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G.T - 31 Aug 2004 10:15 GMT
Hi,

> temporarily to go into a shop or something, take the key and still have the
> radio on for the passengers but it won't stay on and flatten the battery at the
On modern cars (at least my parents' 206 does), the radio turns off after
30min to preserve battery. That *is* a clever choice, IMO. Indeed,
everything turns off after this 30min delay*, and the MFD just shows
"economic mode on" (may be different on english cars, I never modified the
language used by the car, although possible). It seems it works even with an
opened door.

(*) The handbook says that the delay to enable the economic mode is, indeed,
cumulated time without starting the engine. I assume you could, for example,
turn on the radio for 10 mins, then switch off, then on again for 5 mins,
then on for 15 min it would do the trick as well.

Regards,
G.T
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Joe Soap - 30 Aug 2004 15:41 GMT
In response to what Robert <robert27@btinternet.com> posted in
news:cgvcan$rci$1@sparta.btinternet.com:

> The radio doesn't work with the ignition turned to off, it's not
> supposed to according to the manual.

It does on my 206gti.

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?var P?tur Gu?nason - 30 Aug 2004 15:07 GMT
> The radio ought to be able to work with the ignition turned off. Does it?

This feature may be selectable - it is so on my 1992 605. The fuse for the
radio is in a three pole socket, next to the inside fuse box. The center
pole is of course always used, but by plugging into either end you select
whether the current is taken direct from battery (no key in ignition to use
radio) or whether the current is routed through the ignition.
Don't know whether this is selectable on the 206, but it would be
interesting to know ...

Ivar Petur
Joe Soap - 30 Aug 2004 16:13 GMT
In response to what ?var P?tur Gu?nason <ipg@REMOVETHISsimnet.is> posted
in news:cgvca2$h1r$1@news.simnet.is:

>> The radio ought to be able to work with the ignition turned off. Does
>> it?
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> ignition. Don't know whether this is selectable on the 206, but it
> would be interesting to know ...

Don't think so. The radio goes off with ignition off, but can be turned
back on again by its button.

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Keith Willcocks - 30 Aug 2004 16:20 GMT
> In response to what ?var P?tur Gu?nason <ipg@REMOVETHISsimnet.is> posted
> in news:cgvca2$h1r$1@news.simnet.is:
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> Don't think so. The radio goes off with ignition off, but can be turned
> back on again by its button.

For interests sake, this is also true of both my 406 and my wife's 306.
Radio goes off with ignition but can be turned on again while ignition
remains off.

Keith Willcocks
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Dave Baker - 30 Aug 2004 15:55 GMT
>Subject: 206 radio - asks for code every start
>From: "Robert" robert27@btinternet.com
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>fine once the code is entered. Has anyone had the same problem and cured it?
>The 206 is a 99 model and the radio is a Blaupunkt 2040.

There are normally two 12v inputs to a car radio. One which is live all the
time to power the station presets and the security code and the other ignition
switched one to power the actual player.

Sounds like either the 12v permanent live is not working or there's an internal
fault in the radio on that part of the circuit. Maybe it's just that someone
removed the radio once (or the car battery connections) and didn't wire it back
up properly. Check the permanent live first and if that's got voltage and is
connected to the right terminal then it must be an internal fault.
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G.T - 30 Aug 2004 20:34 GMT
Hi,

> removed the radio once (or the car battery connections) and didn't wire it back
> up properly. Check the permanent live first and if that's got voltage and is
> connected to the right terminal then it must be an internal fault.
I guess it's something like it. My Kenwood headunit came with two straps on
the wiring, to let you wire it permanently, or to have the permanent and the
+12V "after ignition" tied together. In the last case, radio presets are
lost every time you turn ignition off.

I had that once on my car, with an almost flat battery, there was merely
enough power to start the engine, and it reseted the radio every time I
started the engine (in addition to the starter running slowly).

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
Tommy Williams - 31 Aug 2004 00:20 GMT
probably not related,i have a blaupunkt cd player in my car and one of the
features of it is you have the option to disable/enable the pin code, could
it simply be that this has a similar thing and that it has been set to
enabled, resulting in you having to put the code in everytime you power up
the radio? worth looking through the menu options.
> Hi,
>
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> TIA
> Robert
 
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