205 1.8D > 1.9TD engine swap

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TomW - 22 Sep 2004 12:17 GMT

I drive a 1994 Pug 205, 1.8 Diesel (Non-turbo). The engine has developed an
expensive knocking sound - it still runs fine, but sounds increasingly
rough.

Anyway - I have always hated the sluggish performance of the 1.8 diesel,
and this knocking sound is an ideal excuse to swap the old 1.8 diesel -
for the 1.9 Turbo Diesel unit I have always wanted.

I have a choice of cheap used 1.9TD engines, in a number of different cars
(Citroen Xantia, Citroen BX, Pug 405 etc...) Are all these engines the same
basic unit? Will it be an easy swap for the 1.8 diesel in the car at the
moment?

Has anybody tried this 1.8 > 1.9TD swop before? If so, is there anything I
need to look out for?

Any advice gratefully received!

TomW

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G.T - 23 Sep 2004 15:33 GMT

Hi,

> Anyway - I have always hated the sluggish performance of the 1.8 diesel,

Sluggish isn't the real name. Not the quickest Diesel car, for sure, but far
good enough for a classic driving.

> I have a choice of cheap used 1.9TD engines, in a number of different cars
> (Citroen Xantia, Citroen BX, Pug 405 etc...) Are all these engines the same
> basic unit? Will it be an easy swap for the 1.8 diesel in the car at the
> moment?

C'mon, try a google :-)
Yup, all the same unit, XUD9TE, 1905cc TD & intercooler engine, able of
92HP.
Usually fit with a Lucas DPC series pump.

> Has anybody tried this 1.8 > 1.9TD swop before? If so, is there anything I
> need to look out for?

Possibly you'll have trouble for placing the intercooler over the camcover.

HTH,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st

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Carl Gibbs - 23 Sep 2004 18:48 GMT

> I drive a 1994 Pug 205, 1.8 Diesel (Non-turbo). The engine has developed an
> expensive knocking sound - it still runs fine, but sounds increasingly
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> TomW

My advice would be to just fit the 1.8TD as that will slot straight in. If
you got the 1.9TD you'd have issues with the intercooler (assuming they all
have one, i dont know) - it wont fit with a standard bonnet, but if you take
it off you'll need a non-intercooler manifold, and also the turbo is a bit
bigger (at least n some cases), and it ill fit but requires a slight
'modification' of the heat sheild (ie a good bashing).

The 1.8TD was offered in 205s, Rover 200/400s, BX and i think the 405 had
them as well, probably a few more too, so shouldnt be too difficult to get
one. A few years ago i brought one for 200 quid which was in good nick from
a rover 200.

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Mindwipe - 26 Sep 2004 21:35 GMT

>> I drive a 1994 Pug 205, 1.8 Diesel (Non-turbo). The engine has developed
> an
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>just dont use the intercooler

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Jon Florijn - 27 Sep 2004 07:21 GMT

Why don't use the intercooler? Just because of the bonnet? The power gained
by the i/c weighs up against the 'trouble' of another bonnet. In germany
some 205's were fitted with an 1.9 TD from the factory. So it will fit. Also
the last 205's were fitted with the 1905cc diesel. I.e. the 205 generations
from '97 and '98.

Greets, Jon.

> >> I drive a 1994 Pug 205, 1.8 Diesel (Non-turbo). The engine has developed
> > an
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> >just dont use the intercooler

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