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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / January 2005

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MPH + km/h replacement speedo dial

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Bas - 06 Jan 2005 00:27 GMT
Hi All,

Since I will be importing my Peugeot 306 phaseII (1.4 petrol) into the UK
shortly I am looking for a replacement speedo dial that includes MPH as well
as km/h scales. Unfortunately my car doesn't have a rev gauge (it has the
big ugly analog clock :( ) and all of the replacement dial-kits (Lockwood
e.o.) only supply kits with the rev-gauge dial included. So my question is:
Does anyone know of anywhere (I've tried Ebay) where I could possibly find a
replacement speedo dial (including the digital milage window), or does
anyone have one spare somewhere?

Cheers,

Bas
Stuart Palmer - 06 Jan 2005 11:17 GMT
Not sure if this is a valid comment, but can't you just purchase new 'dial'
stickers? In the sense you stick them over the top of your old speedo (like
white versions). This would be cheaper I would have thought, thats if they
do one for your car.

Stu
Bas - 06 Jan 2005 13:02 GMT
> Not sure if this is a valid comment, but can't you just purchase new 'dial'
> stickers? In the sense you stick them over the top of your old speedo (like
> white versions). This would be cheaper I would have thought, thats if they
> do one for your car.
>
> Stu

That's exactly the sort of thing I'm looking for, but have so far been
unable to find them (online). Cheers for the tip mate!

Bas
Bas - 06 Jan 2005 13:11 GMT
> > Not sure if this is a valid comment, but can't you just purchase new
> 'dial'
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>
> Bas

Ehrm, I just remembered, the scales have to be visible at night, so stickers
would not be a solution in my case, since the dials are lit from behind.

Bas
Nik&Andy - 06 Jan 2005 14:12 GMT
Most of the stickers are semi-transparent I believe.

Andy

>> > Not sure if this is a valid comment, but can't you just purchase new
>> 'dial'
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>
> Bas
Ex Alfa Adam - 06 Jan 2005 17:51 GMT
> >> > Not sure if this is a valid comment, but can't you just purchase new
> >> 'dial'
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> > stickers
> > would not be a solution in my case, since the dials are lit from behind.

Look, I hate to say this, but aren't you making a rod for your own back?  If
a RHD MPH unit from a UK scrapyard will fit, fit it, otherwise either
cannibalise the dial facing from a MPH car or use the stickers and live in
trepidation with the knowledge that MOT stations and the police will ignore
it anyway.

Happy motoring - you'll soon get used to calculating MPH from your KMH
speedo - I did!

Adam H
G.T - 07 Jan 2005 10:51 GMT
Hi,

> cannibalise the dial facing from a MPH car or use the stickers and live in
> trepidation with the knowledge that MOT stations and the police will ignore
> it anyway.
BTW, aren't kilometers the theoric legal unit in UK, instead of the miles ?

Regards,
G.T
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Buccaneer - 07 Jan 2005 12:23 GMT
> BTW, aren't kilometers the theoric legal unit in UK, instead of the miles
> ?

Go and wash your mouth out with soap!   That's akin to blasphemy over here.
G.T - 07 Jan 2005 12:43 GMT
Hi,

> > BTW, aren't kilometers the theoric legal unit in UK, instead of the miles
> > ?
> Go and wash your mouth out with soap!   That's akin to blasphemy over here.
I could well be upset with such an answer :-)
I can't figure out, being a Frenchy, where is the blasphemy. That's just a
way to ask how Brits tend to use the SI units :-)
Of course I understand imperial units like the inches, miles and some others
(mils for example), but I prefer coping with metric units.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
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Buccaneer - 07 Jan 2005 14:50 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> Regards,
> G.T

Actually we're pretty up to date using miles.  When I was a kid we still had
measures called Rods, Poles and Perches and another called a Chain.  Don't
ask me what any of them were though 'cos it is so long ago ;o)
Hugo Nebula - 08 Jan 2005 11:24 GMT
>I can't figure out, being a Frenchy, where is the blasphemy. That's just a
>way to ask how Brits tend to use the SI units :-)
>Of course I understand imperial units like the inches, miles and some others
>(mils for example), but I prefer coping with metric units.

In the UK we have the typically British fudge of gradual change, with
most things now being measured in metric, but some old imperial units
hanging on.  Millimetres, kg, litres, etc. are commonplace, but road
distances are still measured in miles & speed in miles per hour, beer
in bars is served in pints, but bottled beer is labelled in
millilitres, Fuel is sold in litres but fuel economy is measured in
miles per gallon.

We should have had a changeover date like we did with decimal
currency.  Before that date, pints and feet; after that date, litres
and metres.  No messing about with transition periods or dual units.
IIRC, the decimal currency was introduced with very little problems.

Personally, I blame the French.  If Napoleon had got his act together
and invaded us, we would have a proper system of measurement, and be
driving on the right.
Signature

Hugo Nebula
 'What you have to ask yourself is, "if no-one on the internet wants
  a piece of this, just how far from the pack have you strayed?"'

Triple-S - 06 Jan 2005 15:29 GMT
what about finding a similar model in a scrap yard and taking it's dials?

> Hi All,
>
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>
> Bas
Bas - 07 Jan 2005 09:36 GMT
Thanks for all your tips, will see what I can find. Maybe I am making too
big a deal of it ;)

Bas

> what about finding a similar model in a scrap yard and taking it's dials?
>
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> >
> > Bas
Bas - 07 Jan 2005 16:43 GMT
From the DfT brochure regarding importing cars into the UK:

"Great Britain uses imperial units for speed measurement. The law requires
that speedometers must

include a miles-per-hour display. Please note in particular that any
modified display must be visible in

daylight and in darkness.

Markings may be added to the existing speedometer provided they are:

- accurate;

- durable;

- can be seen clearly in daylight and when the instrument is lit during
darkness."

The strange thing is that if I plan to stay in the UK for less than 6 months
I can carry on driving (have to be insured and taxed in home country) but if
I plan on staying in the UK indefinitely I can't even drive a single mile in
it, exept for drives to the MOT station..... I might claim I'm staying
temporary at first.... ;)

Bas

> Hi All,
>
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>
> Bas
Ex Alfa Adam - 07 Jan 2005 19:34 GMT
> From the DfT brochure regarding importing cars into the UK:
>
> "Great Britain uses imperial units for speed measurement. The law requires
> that speedometers must include a miles-per-hour display. Please note in
particular that any
> modified display must be visible in daylight and in darkness.
> Markings may be added to the existing speedometer provided they are:
> - accurate;
> - durable;
> - can be seen clearly in daylight and when the instrument is lit during
darkness."

> The strange thing is that if I plan to stay in the UK for less than 6 months
> I can carry on driving (have to be insured and taxed in home country) but if
> I plan on staying in the UK indefinitely I can't even drive a single mile in
> it, exept for drives to the MOT station..... I might claim I'm staying
> temporary at first.... ;)

last year I almost bought a Belgian registered Alfa 33 that had been here in
the UK for about 5 years....

The only time I've ever had grief on the ferries is when (a) arriving back
in Portsmouth with a LHD UK registered car and (b) arriving in Dover with a
Belgian registered car.  As I'm a brit I know every rule in the book applies
to me but if you arrive here as a foreigner you'll have no problems with the
authorities about your foreign reg car for ages.  I'm sure that you don't
plan to stay here permanently until you have made your mind up - that'll
take at least 5 months!

Needless to say I've worked for a number of co's here on the south coast who
have many employees arriving every day in their French, Italian and German
registered cars....  Even if you become a permanent resident here you WERE
planning to return your car back to it's country of registration to sell it,
weren't you?

(Don't forget to look into the rule book again - you may find there is an
age or year requirement before which the car does not need a KMH speedo - if
in doubt - sell me the car really cheap and that'll sort the problem!)

Adam H
 
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