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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / January 2005

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307 Hdi 90 Very lumpy idle

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Ady - 08 Jan 2005 22:50 GMT
it's an 2003 hdi 90 only done 14000 miles had it for about six months
faultless driving until today as i came to a stop at some traffic lights the
car started to idle so badly it almost cut out (car shaking) so i switched
of the ignition and tried to restart the car about 15-20 attempts,it failed
to start.then i put my foot down on the throttle and turned it over and it
started with a splutter and has been fine since (about 2 hours driving) idle
gone back to normal,now starts normal again,has anyone had a similar
fault,i'm going to get it booked in at peugeot on mon but because the fault
has now gone i don't want them looking at me strange and coming out with any
crap like theres nothing wrong.
southpawArcher - 09 Jan 2005 01:28 GMT
> i don't want them looking at me strange and coming out with any crap like
> theres nothing wrong.

What are the chances of *that* happening?

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Ady - 09 Jan 2005 06:42 GMT
>> i don't want them looking at me strange and coming out with any crap like
>> theres nothing wrong.
>
> What are the chances of *that* happening?

With my local dealer theres a very good chance because pug customer service
is the worst i have seen.
southpawArcher - 09 Jan 2005 10:37 GMT
> With my local dealer theres a very good chance because pug customer
> service is the worst i have seen.

I concur: I don't give Pug my business because of the bad experiences I've
had.  And it's the perceived arrogance and patronising attitude with it that
I cannot abide.

Because my Pug is no longer under warranty: it's my money and my choice.

I take my motor to local independents, because they don't want to p1ss you
off.  Their business literally depends on good customer relations.

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Ady - 09 Jan 2005 14:14 GMT
>> With my local dealer theres a very good chance because pug customer
>> service is the worst i have seen.
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> I take my motor to local independents, because they don't want to p1ss you
> off.  Their business literally depends on good customer relations.

From what i've been reading from a few brassed of  pug owners,According to
pug if the computer hasn't reported any faults theres nothing wrong with the
car and nothing can be done,Unfortunately trying to start almost 20 attempts
unsucessfully then having to floor the throttle to start it,I would say
theres something definately wrong whether the computer logs a fault or not.
Longshot - 10 Jan 2005 09:48 GMT
Was the car low on fuel at the time? Sounds like an injector issue, by
depressing the pedal you may have cleared a blockage of some sort in the
common rail or some other part of the fuelind system.

'Lumpy' idle would be caused by lack of fuel as well. If the problem
hasn't reoccurred since I'd be inclined to put it down as one of those
things. If the cars been fine since just ignore it. As previous poster has
said Pug dealer will take the p1ss just looking for the problem.

Good luck
Ady - 10 Jan 2005 17:27 GMT
> Was the car low on fuel at the time? Sounds like an injector issue, by
> depressing the pedal you may have cleared a blockage of some sort in the
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>
> Good luck

There was half a tank of fuel in at the time,Also it did have a metal fuel
line replaced near the injectors a few months ago due to leakage of fuel i
wonder if sh.t has got in the fuel system.It's booked in a week on sat so
i'll see what they say.
Androo - 10 Jan 2005 10:31 GMT
> it's an 2003 hdi 90 only done 14000 miles had it for about six months
> faultless driving until today

Count your blessings. If this is the only problem so far with your 307, you
are one of the very lucky ones.

Androo
Fitzy - 14 Jan 2005 19:01 GMT
Has it had a cold starting problem since this occurred, or has it been ok
???

Fitzy

>> it's an 2003 hdi 90 only done 14000 miles had it for about six months
>> faultless driving until today
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>
> Androo
Ady - 14 Jan 2005 21:57 GMT
It's had the cold start problem for about 5-6 weeks now,it's not a major
problem just at a guess i'd say 1 in 10 attempts to start the car 1st time
in a morning it seems to take 2 or 3 times longer cranking to start.My
previous 51 reg 307 hdi 90 which i had for approx 12 months always started
on the button 1st thing in a morning.so obviously theres something not quite
right somewhere.

> Has it had a cold starting problem since this occurred, or has it been ok
> ???
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>>
>> Androo
Nik&Andy - 15 Jan 2005 10:10 GMT
It's the glowplugs..... Sounds like their not glowing!

Andy

> It's had the cold start problem for about 5-6 weeks now,it's not a major
> problem just at a guess i'd say 1 in 10 attempts to start the car 1st time
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>>> Androo
Fitzy - 15 Jan 2005 19:15 GMT
Naaaaa,
Not the glow plugs, he said he was driving and it suddenly started running
rough with a rough idle,
Glowplugs only heat up to start the car ,, once started they switch off,
But as a pure guess, I would say an air leak, possibly somewhere in the
vicinity of the fuel filter,
Fitzy

> It's the glowplugs..... Sounds like their not glowing!
>
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>>>>
>>>> Androo
Nik&Andy - 16 Jan 2005 08:00 GMT
I was referring to the previous reply about cold starting, but I think you
are probably correct, but there may be more than one problem causing these
symptoms.
An air leak sounds more than plausible, and an air leak may cause some fuel
to drain back out of the system overnight, hence the cold start problem.

Andy

> Naaaaa,
> Not the glow plugs, he said he was driving and it suddenly started running
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>>>>> Androo
Fitzy - 21 Jan 2005 22:43 GMT
N&A...............
I agree with the "air leak" theory, this will cause difficult starting from
cold, and run OK for the rest of the day,
Fitzy

>I was referring to the previous reply about cold starting, but I think you
>are probably correct, but there may be more than one problem causing these
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>>>>>> Androo
 
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