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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / January 2005

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[205] TU3S Headgasket - :-(

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Matt - 19 Jan 2005 09:36 GMT
Hi All,

While changing the plugs and leads at the weekend, I noticed small blobs of
oil in the expansion tank (never a good sign) - I had the headgasket done
about 18 months ago but don't know if they did a proper flush of the system
to remove oil from then. What other symptoms should I check to decide if
it's gone again? The oil filler cap looks fine to me and there's no
overheating.

It is driving rough at the moment (better since I changed plugs/leads and
leaned off the mixture after seeing the state of the plugs) - it's fine if I
give it plenty of power but coughs and misfires under gentle acceleration
(especially when cold) - improves a little when warm but doesn't go away.
Find I have to use the choke more.

Admittedly I've now racked up 135,600 miles on original engine

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

If anyone has a good TU3S (85bhp model) and facilities to fit it for not
much money (!!!!!) then it would be greatly appreciated! (Warrington,
Cheshire Area - UK) Haha!

Regards,
Matt

Signature

1991 Peugeot 205 Roland Garros Cabriolet
TU3S 1.4 Carb
http://www.205rolandgarros.co.uk
2003 - Happy 20th Birthday Peugeot 205
SETI Team "Peugeot 205" Founder (and only!) Member
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_152225.html
==

stealthf0x@hotmail.com - 20 Jan 2005 00:51 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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> If anyone has a good TU3S (85bhp model) and facilities to fit it for not
> much money (!!!!!) then it would be greatly appreciated! (Warrington,

> Cheshire Area - UK) Haha!
>
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> http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_152225.html
> ==

Check to see if you're burning any oil or coolant (indicated by white
smoke out the exhaust/low coolant level respectively). Possibly a
pressure test would also show up a problem if one of the cylinders has
low compression (which may also account for the rough running) although
that won't neccesarily implicate the head gasket.
>From what I can remember from when I did mine you'd have to do a pretty
half-arsed job to get any noticeable amount of oil in the coolant
system. Did whoever changed the gasket get the head skimmed or at least
checked for warping at the same time? If not you may have a warped head
which would weaken the seal and it wouldnt last very long.
Hope this gives you somewhere to start.

Cheers
Andy
Matt - 21 Jan 2005 09:27 GMT
> Check to see if you're burning any oil or coolant (indicated by white
> smoke out the exhaust/low coolant level respectively). Possibly a
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Cheers
> Andy

Hi Andy,

Yep, it was skimmed - I'm watching the levels at the moment to see what's
going on.

Thanks,
Matt
Matt - 26 Jan 2005 11:30 GMT
Definitely gone - the contents of the expansion tank could now be better
described as "oil with a touch of water" and the level has halved in a week!

Signature

1991 Peugeot 205 Roland Garros Cabriolet
TU3S 1.4 Carb
http://www.205rolandgarros.co.uk
2003 - Happy 20th Birthday Peugeot 205
SETI Team "Peugeot 205" Founder (and only!) Member
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_152225.html
==

>> Check to see if you're burning any oil or coolant (indicated by white
>> smoke out the exhaust/low coolant level respectively). Possibly a
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> Thanks,
> Matt
Carl Gibbs - 20 Jan 2005 08:04 GMT
> Hi All,
>
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> Regards,
> Matt

Hi Matt

A compression test would be a good idea to start with.  that'll give you a
good ide if something is wrong.  When i had my XS it had done ~120k miles
and a piston ring went.  In the end i put in a new engine that cost me ?70
off ebay.

It could just be you carb thats causng problems.  I really despise those
solex things, they're a pig to get right.  But perhaps a quick cleanout with
some carb cleaner might help (always used to with mine).  Also check the
dizzy and rotor arm if you havent already

Good luck!
Matt - 21 Jan 2005 09:30 GMT
Hi Carl,

My carb is due for a clean-up - I've got a rebuild kit for it, I just need
time to do it - I'm just going to keep an eye on the levels first to make
sure it's not all screwed before spending time on the carb rebuild and still
have a buggered head-gasket.

I have been looking for an engine but none have turned up yet - there is the
idea of a 205 TU 1.6 engine but that's probably beyond me! (then again, I'd
still have my work cut out doing a straight like-for-like swap too!)

One of the RG guys registered on my site has done the 206 swap - makes for a
nice car too!

Cheers!
Matt

Signature

1991 Peugeot 205 Roland Garros Cabriolet
TU3S 1.4 Carb
http://www.205rolandgarros.co.uk
2003 - Happy 20th Birthday Peugeot 205
SETI Team "Peugeot 205" Founder (and only!) Member
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_152225.html
==

>
>> Hi All,
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>
> Good luck!
Carl Gibbs - 21 Jan 2005 22:49 GMT
> Hi Carl,
>
> My carb is due for a clean-up - I've got a rebuild kit for it, I just need
> time to do it - I'm just going to keep an eye on the levels first to make
> sure it's not all screwed before spending time on the carb rebuild and still
> have a buggered head-gasket.

Probably a good idea!

> I have been looking for an engine but none have turned up yet - there is the
> idea of a 205 TU 1.6 engine but that's probably beyond me! (then again, I'd
> still have my work cut out doing a straight like-for-like swap too!)
>
> One of the RG guys registered on my site has done the 206 swap - makes for a
> nice car too!

Which swap is that?
I've always fancied the idea of 106 XSi bits making there way into the car
(1.4 TU with MPi), but when you then consider that it still wont be as quick
as a standard GTi it seems a little pointless.  A 106 GTi engine would be
fun though and i know its been done before.

See my other post for my little project!

> Cheers!
> Matt
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> >
> > Good luck!
Matt - 24 Jan 2005 11:21 GMT
Hi Carl

He's put a 206 1.6i engine in there - said it was a simple swap and works
great! Also got 309 rear beam and discs too.

:-)

M

Signature

1991 Peugeot 205 Roland Garros Cabriolet
TU3S 1.4 Carb
http://www.205rolandgarros.co.uk
2003 - Happy 20th Birthday Peugeot 205
SETI Team "Peugeot 205" Founder (and only!) Member
http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/stats/team/team_152225.html
==

>
>> Hi Carl,
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>> >
>> > Good luck!
 
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