Have Peugeot learned any lessons with the 407?

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Androo - 25 Jan 2005 16:11 GMT

The 307 is almost famously badly built, as we all know. I wondered if
Peugeot, who must be somewhat embarrassed by the 307's reputation, have made
sure the 407 works properly. Any experiences so far? Should all those of us
who downsized from a 406 to a 307 be hinking about upsizing?

Androo

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Gerd Busker - 25 Jan 2005 16:40 GMT

> The 307 is almost famously badly built, as we all know. I wondered if
> Peugeot, who must be somewhat embarrassed by the 307's reputation, have made
> sure the 407 works properly. Any experiences so far? Should all those of us
> who downsized from a 406 to a 307 be hinking about upsizing?

Hmmm. Neighbour has a 407 HDI lease car. My thought were that it was
very thirsty with oil (although that may be neighbour's driving style/choice
of top-up oil) and it had once set the airco to full freeze for the whole
journey.
After a 10 min stop it sorted itself out, but that doesn't help when on
your way to a customer and you're late.

Gerd.

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only_me - 26 Jan 2005 08:19 GMT

"it had once set the airco to full freeze for the whole journey. After a 10
min stop it sorted itself out,"

That sound just like the problem the problem a few 307's had from new ( 2
out 3 in our company) with a faulty fan/sensor which pulls air from cabin
thru a small grille

As per Item 2 in my earlier post
http://www.talkaboutautos.com/group/alt.autos.peugeot/messages/43908.html

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Foo Foo Barney - 25 Jan 2005 18:57 GMT

I took delivery of a 407 SW 2.0 Hdi about 3 weeks ago. Initial impressions
are
1) *MUCH* better built than my previous 406 estate with the quality of
materials for the dash/facia/door trim far higher than the GLX model I had.
I think it is now on a par with the likes of Saab/Volvo
2) Far quieter than the 406 and my experience with 307s suggest that it is
far quieter than those as well.
3) Everything is working properly (well everything that I have tried so
far - it comes with many 'toys')
4) No signs of sloppy workmanship when I took delivery (eg some bits left
inside such as pieces of carpet/screws)
5) The confidence it gives you as you drive it quickly is remarkable, with a
really good feel from the steering and its handling is the best I have
experienced in this class of car.
6) Definitely less boot space than the 406 estate - I'm told its is on a par
with the 307 Estate - no bigger!
7) Early days yet but I think it will not be as fuel efficient as my 406 hdi
was.

Overall though I an very happy with it and it still gets admiring glances as
I drive around (and that Glass roof is great)!

Regards

> The 307 is almost famously badly built, as we all know. I wondered if
> Peugeot, who must be somewhat embarrassed by the 307's reputation, have
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> Androo

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Martin Dixon - 25 Jan 2005 23:02 GMT

> I took delivery of a 407 SW 2.0 Hdi about 3 weeks ago. Initial impressions
> are
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> Overall though I an very happy with it and it still gets admiring glances as
> I drive around (and that Glass roof is great)!

All this is very interesting. I am thinking about a 407 for my next car.
(Why does my local Peugeot dealer insist on asking me wether or not I am
looking for a company car, it is perhaps a bit off-putting to a potential
private buyer).

I haven't driven one yet and won't buy from there unless he can improve his
prices a lot. But I am certainly interested to hear of people's experiences
with this car.

I was worried about rear headroom, but took along a tape measure last time I
had a look, and I don't think it is any worse than my 306 or a friend's
Passat. Has anybody tried to carry a six footer in the back, since this is
something I need to do regularly.

Martin

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Longshot - 26 Jan 2005 09:39 GMT

Have test driven the 407 (think it was SE spec) about 5 months with a semi
automatic gearbox with a sport mode. It was a 2 litre petrol and it
handled very well, although a bit too 'stiff' for my liking I still prefer
the 406's softer ride.

I'm 6' 3" and had no real issues with the rear headroom. Would agree that
the all round build quality is much improved on 406, but then the 406 is a
much older car produced in much larger numbers. Therein lies your problem
if you want a 407, there's not many about yet and they're getting good
write-ups and so people are buying them at top ticket prices. Brother in
law is a Peugeot salesman and he can't get me any sort of deal on a 407,
he's had to give up his company 407 because someone wanted to pay over the
odds for it.

I think if you want a good deal on a year old 407 at a reasonable price
its 18 months away from now.

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Martin Dixon - 27 Jan 2005 20:27 GMT

> I think if you want a good deal on a year old 407 at a reasonable price
> its 18 months away from now.

It'll polly have to be a new one tehn! Ouch!

Why, if "Playtime is over" does the 407 have so many toys? :-)

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R.N. Robinson - 28 Jan 2005 16:18 GMT

> Why, if "Playtime is over" does the 407 have so many toys? :-)

To take your mind off the hard ride ;-)

Ron Robinson

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Nik&Andy - 28 Jan 2005 20:03 GMT

LOL...

Andy

>> Why, if "Playtime is over" does the 407 have so many toys? :-)
>
> To take your mind off the hard ride ;-)
>
> Ron Robinson

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