Hi, coming back from Heathrow on the M3, The engine managment light
came on lost all power just made it onto the hard shoulder. Rac came
out no fault codes on the engine. Got recovered to my local mechanic,
he found filings in the fuel filter any ideas
Thanx in advance
Seadart
Keith - 07 Mar 2005 19:53 GMT
> Hi, coming back from Heathrow on the M3, The engine managment light
> came on lost all power just made it onto the hard shoulder. Rac came
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>
> Seadart
You have the common HDI problem of the fuel lift pump in the tank breaking
up. There have been many postings on this in this group which a search in
Google Groups will no doubt find. If Peugeot do the job (assuming your no
longer covered by warranty) they will want to replace the entire system from
(and including) tank to injectors for an obscene amount of money. If you
can find a good local mechanic, provided the filter hasn't ruptured, he can
probably flush the system through and replace the pump and filters. Be
warned though that I was quoted ?500 just to buy a pump.
Keith
brian - 07 Mar 2005 23:42 GMT
> You have the common HDI problem of the fuel lift pump in the tank breaking
> up. There have been many postings on this in this group which a search in
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> probably flush the system through and replace the pump and filters. Be
> warned though that I was quoted ?500 just to buy a pump.
Which pump was that?
GSF list the HDI lift pumps from ?64.00 (306) to ?135 (Xantia). Both also
contain the fuel level sender.
The ?500 version sounds more like the high pressure pump, though it could
also be a grease monkey mixing up the two parts.
Keith - 08 Mar 2005 08:51 GMT
>> You have the common HDI problem of the fuel lift pump in the tank
>> breaking
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> The ?500 version sounds more like the high pressure pump, though it could
> also be a grease monkey mixing up the two parts.
That was the price quoted, on the 'phone, by a Pug agent so they could well
have got the wrong end of the stick. Either way the whole job came out
around ?800 by a good mechanic as against Pug agent's ?3,500. I found
several other people on the net who had the same problem and ?800ish seemed
to be the rate for all who took that route. There have also been several
who had it done under warranty because it can go at quite low mileages (at
least one at sub 30,000). Searching on Google groups should bring some up.
At the time (two years ago) there was also a website with a forum where it
was a hot topic but I can't find the site now.

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seadart - 08 Mar 2005 18:52 GMT
> >> You have the common HDI problem of the fuel lift pump
> in the tank
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> forum where it
> was a hot topic but I can't find the site now.
Thanks for all the replies! I got it to a Pug dealer and all the fuel
system has to be replaced! It?s still under warrenty so that?s thier
problem
When the stores guys searched the data base for my car it came up as
not having a lift pump (sender only) It?s an estate. any comments on
this one?
Thanks again
Nigel - 08 Mar 2005 22:56 GMT
> > Keith Willcocks
> > (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!)
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>Thanks again
You probably have the Siemens system, which has a bladder in the fuel
feed line on the engine to manually suck the fuel up from the tank, as
opposed to the Bosch system which uses a lift pump incorporated in the
tank sender unit. Otherwise basically the same. Just makes it a lot
more difficult to start after they have changed the entire fuel
system!!
Marc - 07 Mar 2005 22:10 GMT
>Hi, coming back from Heathrow on the M3, The engine managment light
>came on lost all power just made it onto the hard shoulder. Rac came
>out no fault codes on the engine. Got recovered to my local mechanic,
>he found filings in the fuel filter any ideas
>
>Thanx in advance
was it diagnosed by the diag2000? pug has next to the odb codes a set
of there owne, if the management light comes on it writes to the
management system, so it should be readable
does the pump get fuel?
>Seadart
Frank B - 10 Mar 2005 17:20 GMT
Makes you wonder if it is worth replacing the lift pump onna regular
basis when the waranty expires. That way if it fails Peugeot may pay
up for the whole repair if it fails within 12 months.
What would it cost to get this done at a main dealer ?
Frank B