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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / April 2005Various issues on Peugeot 406 2.0 LX
I?ve just bought a second hand Peugeot 406 2.0i LX, 1996 P Reg. Got some problems with it, and I?m hoping you guys can point me in the right direction. I?m aware some of these questions have been answered in part on other posts, but I?m also aware of the acute differences between 406s. Sorry for the long post! Firstly, there?s a clicking, followed by a tired motor noise. It?s happening when the engine is running, but noticable when the car is not moving. I understand this may be because the gears have stripped off of the recirculation motor? If so, I again understand it?s cheaper for me to locate this motor and just unplug it? The speedo worked ok whilst I drove it home. I?ve been driving about 40 miles in it. Now, it will not go above 0. If I leave the car for an hour or so it will register the correct speed, but after about 10 minutes, it drops to 0 again. Is this the sender unit or something else? The engine performance doesn?t seem to be affected. My odometer can only be seen in daylight. I understand this will be the bulb. Is this easy to get to and replace? If so, is there a particular part number and stockist I will need? Finally, do these cars normally come with a remote locking plip? I only got a key with the car, and I think this is an aftermarket one (branded Silca with no buttons). If so, where can I get another one. And does it need to be programmed to the car by a Peugeot dealer (kerching!)? I ask because in my job I?m often carrying heavy loads towards the car. It would be so much easier to unlock by pressing a button! Many thanks in advance for any help you can give. > I?ve just bought a second hand Peugeot 406 2.0i LX, 1996 P Reg. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > off of the recirculation motor? If so, I again understand it?s cheaper > for me to locate this motor and just unplug it? it is easier to just unplug it if you know you wont need recirc > The speedo worked ok whilst I drove it home. I?ve been driving about > 40 miles in it. Now, it will not go above 0. If I leave the car for an > hour or so it will register the correct speed, but after about 10 > minutes, it drops to 0 again. Is this the sender unit or something > else? The engine performance doesn?t seem to be affected. usually sender connector although you need to check it to be sure as senders go down too > My odometer can only be seen in daylight. I understand this will be > the bulb. Is this easy to get to and replace? If so, is there a > particular part number and stockist I will need? bulb available from peugeot dealers is a modified part number which should blow as quickly > Finally, do these cars normally come with a remote locking plip? I > only got a key with the car, and I think this is an aftermarket one [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > towards the car. It would be so much easier to unlock by pressing a > button! normally they do come with remote keys (2 of) you need to know if you have deadlocking or single locking dont know of anyone but dealers who can order keys for you others here may be able to add to this comment though > Many thanks in advance for any help you can give. > > I?ve just bought a second hand Peugeot 406 2.0i LX, 1996 P > Reg. [quoted text clipped - 71 lines] > abuse: > > http://www.autoforumz.com/eform.php?p=509592 Planning to unplug the recirculation motor this weekend. However getting prices from Cit-ren etc for when I get bored one summer weekend and have time to fix it. Am I correct in thinking that I can reach the motor plug from the passenger footwell in order to disconnect it? When you say sender connector, do you mean the unit inside the car or on the gearbox? I?ve seen various postings that mention a box the size of a cigarette packet that can fail. I noticed today that there was an occasional wobble from the RPM counter, once going to 0 and then behaving itself since. Is this related? If it is the unit inside the car, is this reached in the same way as the recirculation motor, or is it nearer to the drivers side? Also, I noticed the speedo worked for about an hour today, and stayed at 0 for the rest of the day. I?ll get the bulb for the dashboard tomorrow. In fact, I?ll get a few if they go regularly. Spoke to the dealer today who quoted big bucks for replacement keys and fobs. Only after the fob though, if that?s possible. I?m not sure if I?ve got deadlocking or single locking. How can I check? I haven?t got the original manual. Thank you very much for your help. > Spoke to the dealer today who quoted big bucks for replacement keys > and fobs. Only after the fob though, if that's possible. I'm not sure > if I've got deadlocking or single locking. How can I check? I haven't > got the original manual. Hold the key in the locking position for a second, you should hear the deadlocking come on if you have it. (my car is the sane model and does). "spamforben" wrote: > > Spoke to the dealer today who quoted big bucks for > replacement keys [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > deadlocking come on if you have it. (my car is the sane model > and does). Just been out to check, it does have the deadlock. I understand that?s the fob with 2 buttons then? Just need to work out what hoops to jump through with my dealer to get a fob now. Probably want to know everything about the car, chassis number, inside leg measurement, neighbour?s phone number, then just give me a generic one off the shelf! I don?t think I?ve got an alarm on this car, but not really had a chance to check. Is there a standard Peugeot alarm for it that just plugs in, or am I better getting an aftermarket alarm? > Just been out to check, it does have the deadlock. I understand that's > the fob with 2 buttons then? Yes. > Just need to work out what hoops to jump through with my dealer to get > a fob now. Probably want to know everything about the car, chassis [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > chance to check. Is there a standard Peugeot alarm for it that just > plugs in, or am I better getting an aftermarket alarm? Mine has no alarm. Do you have to enter a pin number for the immobiliser? "spamforben" wrote: > > Just been out to check, it does have the deadlock. I > understand that's [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Mine has no alarm. Do you have to enter a pin number for the > immobiliser? Yes, just the pin number. It?s just the immobiliser. But just wondered if it could have the Pug alarm fitted, and if it could whether it just plugs in somewhere. >"spamforben" wrote: > > > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >chance to check. Is there a standard Peugeot alarm for it that just >plugs in, or am I better getting an aftermarket alarm? It's not alarmed,at least looking at the schematics,mine is not.I think they thought the second button on the fob immobilising the car acts as an alarm.A cheap fitted one may cover the insurance as my dealer informed my insurance it was alarmed,it plainly is not but it is immobilised.Insurance may use it not to pay out claims so I think I'll have a cheapo fitted. A 1996 P reg LX 406 wont have a factory fitted alarm. You do have the insurance approved Thatcham Cat 2 keypad immobiliser as standard. Dont bother with the Peugeot add on alarms, They are overpriced & you can get a much better alarm fitted for less money. > A 1996 P reg LX 406 wont have a factory fitted alarm. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > overpriced & you can > get a much better alarm fitted for less money. I have brought a R Peugeot 406 2.0 LX Auto It doesnt have a Keypad for immobiliser was the immobiliser an optional extra Or should it of had one fitted to the car as Standard? The Philips Radio is under a flap. There is no LCD screen is this Normal also doesnt seem to be doing anything when I press power no noise from speakers music or Noise. Notice the is a security code button are you meant to press this and enter Number everytime you want to use? Thanks for any Help Hi All the U.K. spec 406s had Thatcham Cat 2 immobilisers fitted at the factory. The early 406s had the keypad immobiliser, But being a R reg it might have the later transponder chip in the key. A lot of 406 have the remote keys set to unlock the keypad when pliped with the remote & owners are sometimes unaware there new car even needs a 4 digit security code for a keypad, That is untill the battery goes flat or gets disconnected & then the fun starts if you dont have the code. To find out what type of immobiliser you have, Have a look near the drivers right hand knee area on the dash, Is there a little flap that pops down? If yes then it is keypad equipped. The Philips radio on the higher spec 406s uses the display with the outside temp on also next to the rear heated screen, hazard lights & heated rear window on the centre consoul. You shouldnt have to put the security code in ever time you want to use the stereo, It should only ask for the code when its unplugged or the battery is disconected / goes flat. It sounds like the radio fuse might have blown. Also, Press the button marked OPEN in the middle of the stereo, Does the flap open on its own? > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > stereo, Does the > flap open on its own? Thanks You For the infomation given Will have a look and see if I have got the flap under the drivers side. know dought will post more questions. You where right about the fuse on the radio thanks for that info the fuse fitted a 10Amp had blown (seems large to me) didnt have one to hand so put 5amp fuse wire across to see if any life wouldd appear. The radio now does open and close the front when you press ity and also takes a tape but still no sound.But I still dont know where the display is.There doesnt seem to be anywhere where a display could be. It also does have the flap that drops down on Drivers side but no keypad is in there.Does this mean that the keyfob is activating imobiliser.The indicators do flash when keyfob button is used to lock car.Is this an indication that car imobiliser is armed.If battery is ever disconnected could I have problems? or as its done by keyfob should be OK?Would like to know before it ever happens so I can try to get Number from peugeot now rather than later. Thanks for any info Hi It sounds like you have the later transponder immobiliser key, The lack of a keypad confirms this. The immobiliser is armed when the key is removed from the ignition, Even if you dont plip the car to lock it the immobiliser is armed as soon as the key is removed from the ignition barrel. Its all worked by magnets & a tiny chip in the key, As well as an aerial coil ( That Peugeot moddified around october 1998 because of failures ) around the igntion barrel. A new aerial coil is around £28 when it starts to play up & an easy diy fittment, A couple of screws & one connector plug. The radio you describe with a opening flap sounds like the high spec Philips unit I had on my GLX 406, The display unit was on the dashboard next to the 3 switches, Heated rear window, Rear fog & hazard warning. The display unit also houses the outside temperature display. Hi Ive found a picture of a 406 dash with the Philips radio I think your talking about. Ive stuck an arrow pointing towards the display unit. Does it look like your radio? Do you have this disply unit fitted? http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v201/PowerLee/d3a1b8d0.bmp > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > warning. > The display unit also houses the outside temperature display. I am starting to suspect someone has just put this radio in just to fill the whole where the radio should be.Its the philips type where the front lifts when you press the open/close button but where you say there should be a display there is just a holder of some kind. Next to the hazard lights button.Where you could put small items.(Wouldnt be very easy to get them out though). Thanks for the picture at least I now know the radio is not the original one as I dont have the display in the car. > I am starting to suspect someone has just put this radio in > just to fill the whole where the radio should be.Its the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Thanks for the picture at least I now know the radio is not > the original one as I dont have the display in the car. Firstly, there?s a clicking, followed by a tired motor noise. It?s happening when the engine is running, but noticable when the car is not moving. I understand this may be because the gears have stripped off of the recirculation motor? If so, I again understand it?s cheaper for me to locate this motor and just unplug it? Have found to stop the clicking if it bothers you.Well this stops it in my car turn the circulate air internallly only on.This seems to stop the clicking. > Thanks You > > For the infomation given > Will have a look and see if I have got the flap under the > drivers side. > know dought will post more questions. You where right about the fuse on the radio thanks for that info the fuse fitted a 10Amp had blown (seems large to me) didnt have one to hand so put 5amp fuse wire across to see if any life wouldd appear. The radio now does open and close the front when you press ity and also takes a tape but still no sound.But I still dont know where the display is.There doesnt seem to be anywhere where a display could be. It also does have the flap that drops down on Drivers side but no keypad is in there.Does this mean that the keyfob is activating imobiliser.The indicators do flash when keyfob button is used to lock car.Is this an indication that car imobiliser is armed.If battery is ever disconnected could I have problems? or as its done by keyfob should be OK?Would like to know before it ever happens so I can try to get Number from peugeot now rather than later. Thanks for any info |
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