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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / May 2005All Peugeot Diesel Engines - history?
Hi, Can anyone help. I'm looking for a list of all the diesel engine types manufactured by Peugeot with a possible list of all the models they've been placed in over the years. Anyone know where I could get this resource? Thanks!! "daddyfreddy" wrote: > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks!! That’s a question and a half. I know the XUD7 that I have was redesigned several times, so it depends on how detailed you want to be. I can’t really help you but I’m sure someone on here can. I only know of the XUD7, XUDT7, XUD9, XUDT9 and XUDTE9 (I think those codes are right). As to checking which models they were fitted to, try checking an insurance company. They won’t have every model but they will have most. For instance I know some 205s were fitted with the XUD9 engine but have yet to find an insurance company which knows this. Hi, > That's a question and a half. I know the XUD7 that I have was > redesigned several times, so it depends on how detailed you want to Most were minor mods (vacuum pump, oil filler location). The only mod which involved the change of name was the 07/92 mod for compliance with EEC rules which made it a XUD7/L. > I can't really help you but I'm sure someone on here can. I only know > of the XUD7, XUDT7, XUD9, XUDT9 and XUDTE9 (I think those codes are > right). Sorry but some are wrong. Read XUD7T, XUD9T and XUD9TE instead. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st >Hi, > >Can anyone help. I'm looking for a list of all the diesel engine types >manufactured by Peugeot with a possible list of all the models they've >been placed in over the years. Anyone know where I could get this >resource? Well the first one that comes to mind is: <http://mypugclub.tripod.com/id23.html> It is not just diesels, is incomplete & may not go back as far as you would like. But it may be that by Googling with info from it you might find a better online one. Otherwise, perhaps others know of a better offline source? Regards  SignatureDave English Thanks guys, excellent info...hopefully I'll be able to fill the rest in as I go along. Hi, > Well the first one that comes to mind is: > <http://mypugclub.tripod.com/id23.html> Oh, I guess I should have a look. > Otherwise, perhaps others know of a better offline source? Errr, me ? :-) To make it easier, very early and bigger Diesels were called XD. One of the very first (and I can't remember if it was on 403 or 404) was the XD88A (I guess it was on the 404). All XD series were built by an affiliate of Peugeot called Indenor. Most common XDs are XD3, 2.3D (J7, J9, 504, 505, Ford Sierra 2.3D). Then came the XID (1970 ?), on 204s and 304s. Then came the XUD (1980), 205, 309, 405, 605, 306, 406, BX, XM, Xantia... 1769cc to 2.1L (can't remember the exact capacity). A bit later came the TUD (1.4 and 1.5), AX, 106, Saxo... Then came the DW (206D, 306HDi, all 2.0 and 2.2 HDis are DW series). Then came the DV4 (1.4HDi). The only one I really don't know is the 2.5D fit to CX, C25, J5 and 605s / XMs. Pug made, sure, but no name in mind. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > g.t6@worldonline.fr > 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st The XID was also fitted to the early 305, I had one, T reg. 1600cc OHC with the gearbox under the engine, mini style. Brian. Hi, > The XID was also fitted to the early 305, I had one, T reg. 1600cc OHC with > the gearbox under the engine, mini style. True, I forgot to mention that. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st Hi, > Peugeot called Indenor. Most common XDs are XD3, 2.3D (J7, J9, 504, 505, > Ford Sierra 2.3D). Just a little spot on XD series, excepted it was one of the very first automotive TDs available, it is often fit to Jeeps. > The only one I really don't know is the 2.5D fit to CX, C25, J5 and 605s / > XMs. Pug made, sure, but no name in mind. OK, finally I got the name for the 2.5TD fit to 605s : DK5ATE. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st Let's not forget the U.S. models-'74-'76 504 XD90 w/Bosch equipment. '77-'79 XD2 w/Roto-Diesel and '80-'81 XD2 w/Bosch. Then the '81 XD2S-TD (50mm conn rod journals) and the '82-'86 XD2S-TD(52mm conn rod journals) both w/Bosch equipment. No U.S. diesels after '86. A big 'Thank You!' to GM for ruining the diesel market here. Joe D. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > g.t6@worldonline.fr > 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st Hi, > Let's not forget the U.S. models-'74-'76 504 XD90 w/Bosch equipment. '77-'79 > XD2 w/Roto-Diesel and '80-'81 XD2 w/Bosch. Then the '81 XD2S-TD (50mm conn > rod journals) and the '82-'86 XD2S-TD(52mm conn rod journals) both I forgot the US models (close to european types), BTW the very first series of XD TDs were reserved for export to the US, and many 505 SRDTs were used as taxis in NYC. And I wonder, what did people think (including drivers) about these cars, especially compared to usual taxis (IIRC, mostly Chevy or Ford). Any online source ? > w/Bosch equipment. No U.S. diesels after '86. A big 'Thank You!' to GM for > ruining the diesel market here. Which may appear as amazing here, as GM is one of the most important Diesel engines manufacturers (through Isuzu). Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > or > Ford). Any online source ? They were a big hit with both independent taxi owners and riders as they swallowed up bumps from the thousands of potholes in NYC streets at the time. I would not be surprised to see a couple on the road today. While parts are still available, techs who can still repair them are hard to find.> >> w/Bosch equipment. No U.S. diesels after '86. A big 'Thank You!' to GM >> for >> ruining the diesel market here. > Which may appear as amazing here, as GM is one of the most important > Diesel > engines manufacturers (through Isuzu). I haven't checked but I wouldn't be surprised if they were Isuzu diesels. The GM truck Silverado uses an optional DuraMax diesel engine(very highly rated here) designed by Isuzu and built jointly with GM. > Regards, > G.T > g.t6@worldonline.fr > 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >Peugeot called Indenor. Most common XDs are XD3, 2.3D (J7, J9, 504, 505, >Ford Sierra 2.3D). the first diesel pug road car fitted was the XD85(indendor) with 66 bhp in a 404cabriolet 1964 http://404.tin.at/pic404rd.htm they took an endurance test with it, driving 103 hours at top speed ( 161,49 km/h) it proved economic and reliable in that "test" well over 16.000 kM the production models came with an XD 1 XD2 and XD88 wich later one even evolutionised to turbo versions for the 604 and 505 later on many XUD9 were "retrofitted" in the 404 which makes it practically unbreakable. at least that is the info on the 404 in the museum in Sochaux (visited last year) >Then came the XID (1970 ?), on 204s and 304s. >Then came the XUD (1980), 205, 309, 405, 605, 306, 406, BX, XM, Xantia... >1769cc to 2.1L (can't remember the exact capacity). >A bit later came the TUD (1.4 and 1.5), AX, 106, Saxo... >Then came the DW (206D, 306HDi, all 2.0 and 2.2 HDis are DW series). >Then came the DV4 (1.4HDi). the DW series is based on the very same lump as the XUD series >The only one I really don't know is the 2.5D fit to CX, C25, J5 and 605s / >XMs. Pug made, sure, but no name in mind. XUD(TE) 10, 2.1 litres and XUD(TE) 12, 2.5 litres from memory. the XUD12 is an impossible lump, same as XUD10 but with bigger bore wich makes it less ( far less) reliable. >Regards, >G.T say any new sarcophagues lately on the a31? i'm visiting my mother next week cheers >g.t6@worldonline.fr >205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st Hi Marc, > >Peugeot called Indenor. Most common XDs are XD3, 2.3D (J7, J9, 504, 505, > >Ford Sierra 2.3D). > the first diesel pug road car fitted was the XD85(indendor) with 66 > bhp in a 404cabriolet 1964 Wrong, it was the 403D, released in 1959, after many tests with taxis. > they took an endurance test with it, driving 103 hours at top speed ( > 161,49 km/h) it proved economic and reliable in that "test" well over > 16.000 kM This car was based on a 404 cab, I agree with that. > at least that is the info on the 404 in the museum in Sochaux > (visited last year) Damn, I only visited the museum once, in 2001. There was a booklet (can't remember if there was other versions than french), which had a line about the 403D release in 1959. BTW, do you remember whether the 205 cab had a 4-gears knob ? > the DW series is based on the very same lump as the XUD series True. > >The only one I really don't know is the 2.5D fit to CX, C25, J5 and 605s / > >XMs. Pug made, sure, but no name in mind. > XUD(TE) 10, 2.1 litres and XUD(TE) 12, 2.5 litres from memory. XUD11ATE or BTE (depending on depollution level), 2.1 12 valves. The 2.5 was the DK5. > the XUD12 is an impossible lump, same as XUD10 but with bigger bore > wich makes it less ( far less) reliable. XUD9, the XUD10 did not exist, and the 11 had a 12 valves head too. > say any new sarcophagues lately on the a31? No idea. Damn, they're growing up like mushrooms ! They'll put one along the RN151 15 miles southern Auxerre (yes, I know that 'cause that's around my house, and a concrete block with 2 wires coming from 2 holes can't be anything else !). > i'm visiting my mother next week I wish you a happy motoring - once again you'll have to cope with all these sarkoboxes. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st >Hi Marc, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> bhp in a 404cabriolet 1964 >Wrong, it was the 403D, released in 1959, after many tests with taxis. hmm got wrong info then.... >> they took an endurance test with it, driving 103 hours at top speed ( >> 161,49 km/h) it proved economic and reliable in that "test" well over [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >the 403D release in 1959. >BTW, do you remember whether the 205 cab had a 4-gears knob ? you mean the BE1 gearbox? thats the one in my 305D dont know if it was fitted in a 205, maybe the "205 "van" but i dont recall seeing a 205 with a 4 shft gearbox >> the DW series is based on the very same lump as the XUD series >True. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> wich makes it less ( far less) reliable. >XUD9, the XUD10 did not exist, and the 11 had a 12 valves head too. like said ffrom memory, however the xud9 is the very lump fitted to my 305.... >> say any new sarcophagues lately on the a31? >No idea. Damn, they're growing up like mushrooms ! They'll put one along the >RN151 15 miles southern Auxerre (yes, I know that 'cause that's around my >house, and a concrete block with 2 wires coming from 2 holes can't be >anything else !). hmm i take the autun intermission then... >> i'm visiting my mother next week >I wish you a happy motoring - once again you'll have to cope with all these >sarkoboxes. got flashed last time but still not fined gRRZZ Marc >Regards, >G.T >g.t6@worldonline.fr >205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st Hi, > you mean the BE1 gearbox? thats the one in my 305D dont know if it was > fitted in a 205, maybe the "205 "van" but i dont recall seeing a 205 > with a 4 shft gearbox Well, in the Museum we saw a 205 Cab with a 4-gears knob, I can't remember wether it was a BE1 or a BE3 though. And, yes, the BE1/4 has been fit to some 205s. Indeed, came with Diesels (XUD7+BE1/4), in general GLDs / XLDs and some XADs. > like said ffrom memory, however the xud9 is the very lump fitted to my > 305.... It's the same. Later XUDs were offering 70HP instead of 65, that's all. > >I wish you a happy motoring - once again you'll have to cope with all these > >sarkoboxes. > got flashed last time but still not fined You won't get fined as long as you live in Holland (dutch plates). Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st |
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