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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / May 2005

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406 97 2.1 td Needs new pretensioner!!

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energizer - 03 May 2005 11:00 GMT
Hi all,
I've recently had a problem with the auxillary drive belt on my 406. It
keeps coming loose and sounds terrible. It's apparent that it needs a new
pretensioner. Peugeot quote £165 for parts and £270!!!! for labour. Can
anyone tell me if it's worth trying to do this myself, how hard it is and
if you think an independent garage will do it cheaper? Seems very
expensive for what the Haynes describe as 3 spanners!!!! lol
Regards
Sy
Nik&Andy - 03 May 2005 12:48 GMT
> Hi all,
> I've recently had a problem with the auxillary drive belt on my 406. It
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> Regards
> Sy

It's dead easy to do, you will need a good trolley jack and a plank of wood
though as you will probably have to remove the engine mount.
Getting the tensioner back in is a pain in the nuts, so I drilled a hole in
the side of mine using a cobalt drill bit and stuck a small precision
screwdriver blade in it to act as a lock to take off the tension off the
spring until the belt and tensioner where all in place.
You will get a pre-tensioner and new cambelt from GSF car parts I think, not
that expensive.

Andy
G.T - 04 May 2005 09:33 GMT
Hi,

> Getting the tensioner back in is a pain in the nuts, so I drilled a hole in
> the side of mine using a cobalt drill bit and stuck a small precision
That's what my mechanic does now with Pugs' tensionner. Far easier to fit,
and he said me that was as standard on Renault parts. It doesn't convince
me, Renault cars are still a pile of crap :-)

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
akd - 04 May 2005 13:45 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> g.t6@worldonline.fr
> 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st

The new Renault Laguna Diesel is the only diesel car I have been told to
stay away from, it actually destroys itself due to the EGR valce apparantly.

Can anybody confirm this?

I have never heard of anything so ridiculus as this, do renault not test
there engines before they sell them?

Andy
nigel - 04 May 2005 21:31 GMT
>> Hi,
>>
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>
>Andy
Yeah, probably as much as Peugeot seem to!!
G.T - 05 May 2005 12:09 GMT
Hi,

> The new Renault Laguna Diesel is the only diesel car I have been told to
> stay away from, it actually destroys itself due to the EGR valce apparantly.
> Can anybody confirm this?
Errr, it seems it's the case.

> I have never heard of anything so ridiculus as this, do renault not test
> there engines before they sell them?
No clue, but usual : 1.6 16V burning coil packs (replacement part seems
reliable though), 1.9DTi breaking timing belts, DCis wearing turbochargers
fast like hell...
Sure I'll never buy a Renault.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : http://205d.fr.st
Lee Power - 05 May 2005 22:26 GMT
Hi

Its a known fact in the trade if the EGR valve fails on the DCI Lagunas
then if your very very lucky you get away with just a blown turbo charger,
But normally its whole new engine time.

Avoid the Laguna II at all costs!

One of the reps at my work had one as his company car.

In 3 years from new it was towed in to the Renault dealer 7 times, The
other 12 times he managed to drive it there.

Work has banned us from having any new Renault company cars.
akd - 06 May 2005 15:19 GMT
> Hi
>
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>
> Work has banned us from having any new Renault company cars.

Oh, dear....

What can you say to that.

Andy
MARK  BANKS - 12 May 2005 21:45 GMT
Renault cars are still a pile of crap :-) >.peugeot aint any better? (sagem
coils spiking e.c.u's ,double relay causing major back e.m.f,406 thermal
incident!!!!, siemens sid 801 w.nk fuel system,comm 2,000 's!!! ,double
damping flywheels.... to name a few) don't get me started on the piece's of
sh.t =807+307
Nik&Andy - 13 May 2005 20:06 GMT
MARK BANKS via CarKB.com wrote:
> Renault cars are still a pile of crap :-) >.peugeot aint any better? (sagem
> coils spiking e.c.u's ,double relay causing major back e.m.f,406 thermal
> incident!!!!, siemens sid 801 w.nk fuel system,comm 2,000 's!!! ,double
> damping flywheels.... to name a few) don't get me started on the piece's of
> sh.t =807+307

Am I correct in thinking your not keen on french motors :)

Andy
Neil D - 03 May 2005 14:34 GMT
I've got the same car and engine. Also, I had to have the tensioner changed.
I remember the part being expensive, but can't remember the labour charge at
my local garage costing a lot. I'm sure I'd have remembered if it was over
£100. So if I were you, I'd leave Peugeot well alone. My local garage
charged me £130 to replace my timing belt, so to change the tensioner
would've been less than that I'm sure. either way, a lot less than Peugeot,

Cheers
Neil

> Hi all,
> I've recently had a problem with the auxillary drive belt on my 406. It
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> Regards
> Sy
energizer - 06 May 2005 09:13 GMT
Cheers guys,
As usual, a great help. I will bypass the peugeot option with great
pleasure!!
Kind regards
Simon
 
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