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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / June 2005

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406 dim radio display

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Graham Newton - 23 May 2005 23:56 GMT
After my trusty 405 estate died from terminal rear suspension failure last
month, I've just bought a 1999 406 estate with 105k on the clock.  It's a
great car.  I can't believe how low the engine revs -- I've got the HDi
turbo diesel and it's so different from the old 405 1.9 turbo diesel.

Anyway, I just need to fix a leak in the roof -- the aerial fixing isn't
watertight.  Not too hard (although ny first attempt to fix it has failed).
The most annoying problem though is with the radio display.  It's
permanently dim -- so dim I can't see it without getting my eyes about 2
inches from the display.

Does anyone know whether it's likely to be an electrical problem with one of
the feeds into the radio, or is the fault in the radio itself?

Any advice gratefully received.

Graham
Ken - 24 May 2005 08:13 GMT
I had this problem with the clock and all that was necessary was to
replace a bulb. I don't know whether this also applies to the radio.

The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
John Ricketts - 24 May 2005 13:57 GMT
If its the same radio as in my 1998 406 estate, then the radio leds are
soldered in. I had this problem, and the local radio shop replaced the leds
for about 20 quid.

>I had this problem with the clock and all that was necessary was to
> replace a bulb. I don't know whether this also applies to the radio.
>
> The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
MICHAEL ROCHE - 24 May 2005 16:32 GMT
You were done they are back illuminated by bulbs in the original Peugeot
set-up.
Mike
> If its the same radio as in my 1998 406 estate, then the radio leds are
> soldered in. I had this problem, and the local radio shop replaced the leds
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> >
> > The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
John Ricketts - 25 May 2005 09:54 GMT
depends on the type of radio fitted.

> You were done they are back illuminated by bulbs in the original Peugeot
> set-up.
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>> >
>> > The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
Nom - 26 May 2005 08:55 GMT
Er, no they're not - read his post again !

> You were done they are back illuminated by bulbs in the original
> Peugeot set-up.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>>>
>>> The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
MICHAEL ROCHE - 26 May 2005 14:48 GMT
The item you seem to be talking about is a pigtail bulb, not a LED, as it
has no polarity.
Mike
> Er, no they're not - read his post again !
>
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> >>>
> >>> The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
Nom - 27 May 2005 08:58 GMT
Stop !

You're talking about the bulb that lights the seperate dashboard display !

This is NOT what the original poster is referring to !

His display is IN his radio - not seperate !

It's an LED display, NOT a pigtail bulb !

You're talking about something completely different :)

> The item you seem to be talking about is a pigtail bulb, not a LED,
> as it has no polarity.
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>>>>>
>>>>> The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
Graham - 31 May 2005 16:15 GMT
OK.  It's the LEDs IN the radio unit itself that must have gone.  It's
the radio display ONLY that I can't see.  The radio display is in the
radio itself in my 406, not in the dashboard as I've seen it on some
others.  My dashboard display shows only the external temperature and
is working fine.

Now, I'm happy tackling most jobs on my car and am certainly happy
soldering new LEDs on a PCB if I can only get to it.  Anyone got any
advice on how to get the radio unit itself out.  Do I need a special
tool, or will two coat hangers do it?  Anyone successfully removed the
radio and willing to offer some advice?

Thanks,

Graham
Nom - 01 Jun 2005 08:53 GMT
> OK.  It's the LEDs IN the radio unit itself that must have gone.  It's
> the radio display ONLY that I can't see.  The radio display is in the
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> tool, or will two coat hangers do it?  Anyone successfully removed the
> radio and willing to offer some advice?

Coathangers/Needles/Screwdrivers/Anything will work just fine - jam them in
the holes, and jiggle around whilst jiggling the headunit out (pull with the
tape slot). If you fail miserably, your local car audio store (or Halfords
IIRC ?) will sell you a set of removal keys for a couple of quid.
grimbonewt@gmail.com - 25 May 2005 14:10 GMT
John, I've taken a look and my radio looks like it's the same as yours.
I can't prise the display off, but I can prise the controls off and
behind them on a PCB are a series of LEDs.  I guess to reach the LEDs
behind the display it will have to go to someone who knows what they're
doing.

I think I'll live with having to get very close to the display to see
it for now!

Graham (posting from work, using a web-based client)
Nom - 26 May 2005 08:55 GMT
> John, I've taken a look and my radio looks like it's the same as
> yours. I can't prise the display off, but I can prise the controls
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> I think I'll live with having to get very close to the display to see
> it for now!

Remove the headunit, and you can dissasemble the casing easily. Any
competent electrician will be able to solder you in some new LEDs.
MICHAEL ROCHE - 24 May 2005 16:32 GMT
Your problem is the 2 bulbs that illuminate the display. They cost me about
£1.25 each from the local dealer.
The display is levered out on my 1998 406 and the bulbs are then just held
by a half turn.
Mike
> I had this problem with the clock and all that was necessary was to
> replace a bulb. I don't know whether this also applies to the radio.
>
> The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
Graham Newton - 24 May 2005 23:55 GMT
Thanks for the advice guys.  I'll take a look tomorrow and let you know how
I get on.
Graham

> Your problem is the 2 bulbs that illuminate the display. They cost me
> about
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>>
>> The Haynes manual is useful for problems such as this.
Nom - 26 May 2005 08:54 GMT
> Your problem is the 2 bulbs that illuminate the display. They cost me
> about £1.25 each from the local dealer.
> The display is levered out on my 1998 406 and the bulbs are then just
> held by a half turn.

Er, he's talking about the display IN the stereo, not the dashboard display
! There are no bulbs in the stereo !
mark banks peugeot master technician - 26 May 2005 20:47 GMT
Er, he's talking about the display IN the stereo, not the dashboard display
! There are no bulbs in the stereo ! << im glad someone said it , it was
starting to piss me off!!
p38arover - 25 May 2005 15:48 GMT
It could be like the radio used in the Range Rovers.  I wrote this page to
help those owners:  http://www.rangerovers.net/repairdetails/radiolcd.html

Ron

> After my trusty 405 estate died from terminal rear suspension failure last
> month, I've just bought a 1999 406 estate with 105k on the clock.  It's a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Graham
Graham - 31 May 2005 16:10 GMT
Ron,

Looks very similar.  Thanks.  You might have just persuaded me to have
a go at removing the unit and repairing it.

Graham
 
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