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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / June 2005

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Ken - 21 Jun 2005 02:30 GMT
Recent queries on 406 clicking noises and driver's window and
air-bag-light problems prompt me to remind everyone to search the group
before lodging queries. Doing this simply saves time. Rather than wait
until someone gets around to responding you can have your problem
solved instantly. Or you may still need to lodge a query but it may be
more specific by drawing on the information from previous posts.

Newsgroups on any topic contain a wealth of information in past posts.
This is particularly so of this group.
Sooty - 21 Jun 2005 07:57 GMT
Could you tell me how to find the archive? I'm a bit new to newsgroups.

Thanks

Soots
> Recent queries on 406 clicking noises and driver's window and
> air-bag-light problems prompt me to remind everyone to search the group
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> Newsgroups on any topic contain a wealth of information in past posts.
> This is particularly so of this group.
Malc - 21 Jun 2005 08:35 GMT
> Could you tell me how to find the archive? I'm a bit new to newsgroups.

Google groups advanced search? Posting at the bottom makes things
easier to read as well although it isn't compulsory. THere are some
newsgroups where you'll get your head bitten off for that fairly minor
sin.

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Ken - 22 Jun 2005 03:56 GMT
> Google groups advanced search? Posting at the bottom makes things
> easier to read as well although it isn't compulsory. THere are some
> newsgroups where you'll get your head bitten off for that fairly minor
> sin.

Mostly I delete the previous thread. I have never worked out, with
emails or groups, where I should put my reply. With emails, eudora
seems to expect you to put it above the previous message. I must have
avoided the head-biting groups so far.
Malc - 22 Jun 2005 08:21 GMT
> > Google groups advanced search? Posting at the bottom makes things
> > easier to read as well although it isn't compulsory. THere are some
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> seems to expect you to put it above the previous message. I must have
> avoided the head-biting groups so far.

I think the idea is that if you post at the bottom then it reads as a
book, whereas if you post at the top the reader has to keep switching
from top to bottom. As for snipping, most people seem to like you to
keep a little of what you're replying to just for context. This has
puzzled me more because most newsreaders allow you to see the whole
thread.

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Keith Willcocks - 22 Jun 2005 09:16 GMT
>> > Google groups advanced search? Posting at the bottom makes things
>> > easier to read as well although it isn't compulsory. THere are some
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> puzzled me more because most newsreaders allow you to see the whole
> thread.

Many people, myself included, use Outlook Express (or similar) for reading
newsgroup items and they appear more like an email.   Each response in the
thread is a separate email so keeping the previous postings (even snipped)
gives continuity and saves having to jump from email to email to refer back.
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Malc - 22 Jun 2005 09:46 GMT
> >> > Google groups advanced search? Posting at the bottom makes things
> >> > easier to read as well although it isn't compulsory. THere are some
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> thread is a separate email so keeping the previous postings (even snipped)
> gives continuity and saves having to jump from email to email to refer back.

That did occur to me after I'd posted. I use outlook express too but
mine appear as a tree so it's easy to refer to the previous message.

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Keith Willcocks - 22 Jun 2005 11:15 GMT
>> >> > Google groups advanced search? Posting at the bottom makes things
>> >> > easier to read as well although it isn't compulsory. THere are some
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> That did occur to me after I'd posted. I use outlook express too but
> mine appear as a tree so it's easy to refer to the previous message.

So does mine, but I am lazy ;o)

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sid - 22 Jun 2005 13:33 GMT
Unless you have the memory of a goldfish or the thread is a complex one with
several queries then there is absolutely no need to retain any of the
thread. It is helpful to snip a post if referring to a specific point.

Reading a post which retains all the thread(s)is a total waste of time and
leads to very long posts that can be difficult to follow.

If posters insist on retaining thread details,  then top posting is a far
better option. The posters that get all upset about top postings maybe have
the time to trawl through off topic remarks and personal abuse but I am
interested in the reply not the previous posts.

Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
sid - 22 Jun 2005 13:33 GMT
Unless you have the memory of a goldfish or the thread is a complex one with
several queries then there is absolutely no need to retain any of the
thread. It is helpful to snip a post if referring to a specific point.

Reading a post which retains all the thread(s)is a total waste of time and
leads to very long posts that can be difficult to follow.

If posters insist on retaining thread details,  then top posting is a far
better option. The posters that get all upset about top postings maybe have
the time to trawl through off topic remarks and personal abuse but I am
interested in the reply not the previous posts.

Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
sid - 22 Jun 2005 13:33 GMT
Unless you have the memory of a goldfish or the thread is a complex one with
several queries then there is absolutely no need to retain any of the
thread. It is helpful to snip a post if referring to a specific point.

Reading a post which retains all the thread(s)is a total waste of time and
leads to very long posts that can be difficult to follow.

If posters insist on retaining thread details,  then top posting is a far
better option. The posters that get all upset about top postings maybe have
the time to trawl through off topic remarks and personal abuse but I am
interested in the reply not the previous posts.

Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
Malc - 23 Jun 2005 08:24 GMT
> Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
> excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.

Or stop people posting the same message 3 times ;-)

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Keith Willcocks - 23 Jun 2005 10:13 GMT
>> Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
>> excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
>>
> Or stop people posting the same message 3 times ;-)

Or even 5 times, especially when they are complaining about other peoples
faults ;o)
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Malc - 23 Jun 2005 13:31 GMT
> >> Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
> >> excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
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> Or even 5 times, especially when they are complaining about other peoples
> faults ;o)

ITYM 6 times. Do keep up ;-)

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sid - 28 Jun 2005 02:54 GMT
> > Or even 5 times, especially when they are complaining about other peoples
> > faults ;o)

I suppose I could claim posting the same message was meant to be a little
"post modernist irony" - memory of a goldfish - get it :-)

Truth is that OE claimed that the message had not been sent and was still
present in my outbox - hence the number of repeat posts

Sorry about that
Keith Willcocks - 28 Jun 2005 09:48 GMT
>> > Or even 5 times, especially when they are complaining about other
> peoples
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>
> Sorry about that

Don't apologise, laughing is good for you (see my motto)   ;o)
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sid - 22 Jun 2005 13:33 GMT
Unless you have the memory of a goldfish or the thread is a complex one with
several queries then there is absolutely no need to retain any of the
thread. It is helpful to snip a post if referring to a specific point.

Reading a post which retains all the thread(s)is a total waste of time and
leads to very long posts that can be difficult to follow.

If posters insist on retaining thread details,  then top posting is a far
better option. The posters that get all upset about top postings maybe have
the time to trawl through off topic remarks and personal abuse but I am
interested in the reply not the previous posts.

Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
sid - 22 Jun 2005 13:33 GMT
Unless you have the memory of a goldfish or the thread is a complex one with
several queries then there is absolutely no need to retain any of the
thread. It is helpful to snip a post if referring to a specific point.

Reading a post which retains all the thread(s)is a total waste of time and
leads to very long posts that can be difficult to follow.

If posters insist on retaining thread details,  then top posting is a far
better option. The posters that get all upset about top postings maybe have
the time to trawl through off topic remarks and personal abuse but I am
interested in the reply not the previous posts.

Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
sid - 22 Jun 2005 13:33 GMT
Unless you have the memory of a goldfish or the thread is a complex one with
several queries then there is absolutely no need to retain any of the
thread. It is helpful to snip a post if referring to a specific point.

Reading a post which retains all the thread(s)is a total waste of time and
leads to very long posts that can be difficult to follow.

If posters insist on retaining thread details,  then top posting is a far
better option. The posters that get all upset about top postings maybe have
the time to trawl through off topic remarks and personal abuse but I am
interested in the reply not the previous posts.

Times have moved on with Google having an archive of past posts and an
excellent search facility. Pity they can't strip out all the garbage.
G.T - 22 Jun 2005 13:36 GMT
Hi,

> So does mine, but I am lazy ;o)
Slightly OT, but I'll try to give it (should be a default setup) : when on a
NG folder, click Display / Current / Group messages by thread. Working with
a french version I guess the names should be about that.

Now, the quoting point, including top or bottom posting : bottom posting
recommended by some RFC's which I forgot the numbers.

HTH,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
Nom - 21 Jun 2005 10:20 GMT
> Could you tell me how to find the archive? I'm a bit new to
> newsgroups.

Go visit http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.autos.peugeot 
Nom - 21 Jun 2005 10:20 GMT
> Recent queries on 406 clicking noises and driver's window and
> air-bag-light problems prompt me to remind everyone to search the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Newsgroups on any topic contain a wealth of information in past posts.
> This is particularly so of this group.

Use http://groups.google.co.uk/group/alt.autos.peugeot to search

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