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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / July 2005

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205 Cracks - Structural?

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Streltsky - 29 Jun 2005 19:36 GMT
I’ve got a 3 door 205 that has done 175k. Near the top of the door
frame there is a groove that runs back along the car which I presume
is a weld line.
Since I’ve had the car there have been cracks in the seam but they
have recently started to grow and the driver side one is now about 3
inches long.
I’ve seen the same thing on 205s in the scrappy but never as long as
mine.
Has anyone else had these? Are they structural or just cracks in the
paintwork?
G.T - 29 Jun 2005 20:03 GMT
Hi,

> Has anyone else had these? Are they structural or just cracks in the
> paintwork?
It's structural (whatever some people say) and especially noticeable on 3
doors. You'll have the same kind of cracks under the rear wing.
That's the bodywork flexing which causes this. A hard driving (like spinning
around a corner like a devil) makes them longer. AFAIK fitting a front
struct bar stops cracking, just because it moves the flexpoint to another
place.
My best advice would be "don't care". I also have them on my '93 Junior D.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
Matt - 30 Jun 2005 11:08 GMT
Quite usual - there's a flexible bit there where the wing and roof join -
loads of them go over time. Nothing to worry about.

M

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> I've got a 3 door 205 that has done 175k. Near the top of the door
> frame there is a groove that runs back along the car which I presume
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> Has anyone else had these? Are they structural or just cracks in the
> paintwork?
R - 01 Jul 2005 09:12 GMT
> Quite usual - there's a flexible bit there where the wing and roof join -
> loads of them go over time. Nothing to worry about.
>
> M

Thank the lord for that. I thought my 1.9 Gti had had a new rear quarter,
but couldn't find any other evidence of it.

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R
Streltsky - 02 Jul 2005 03:37 GMT
>It’s structural (whatever some people say) and especially
>noticeable on 3
>doors. You’ll have the same kind of cracks under the rear wing.
>That’s the bodywork flexing which causes this. A hard driving
>(like spinning
>around a corner like a devil) makes them longer. AFAIK fitting a
front

>struct bar stops cracking, just because it moves the flexpoint to
>another
>place.
>My best advice would be "don’t care". I also have them on my
>’93 Junior D.

>Quite usual - there’s a flexible bit there where the wing and
>roof join -
>loads of them go over time. Nothing to worry about.

Thanks, Nice to know my roof won’t be falling off soon   :D
G.T - 02 Jul 2005 15:22 GMT
Hi,

> Thanks, Nice to know my roof won't be falling off soon   :D
No. Even heading on the motorway at incredible speeds you won't lose the
roof. Building a convertible is a bit more work ;-)

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
Streltsky - 04 Jul 2005 20:35 GMT
>No. Even heading on the motorway at incredible speeds you won’t
>lose the roof. Building a convertible is a bit more work  

Incredible speed? I wish. If i didn’t know better I’d swear someone’s
taken 10bhp off the car now that summer is back  :D  The car still
seems to struggle to get oxygen, and therefore to get over 75mph. It’s
not too bad off the motorway though, hence the cracks  :)

Streltsky
G.T - 05 Jul 2005 13:07 GMT
Hi,

> >No. Even heading on the motorway at incredible speeds you won't
> >lose the roof. Building a convertible is a bit more work
> Incredible speed? I wish. If i didn't know better I'd swear someone's
> taken 10bhp off the car now that summer is back  :D  The car still
> seems to struggle to get oxygen, and therefore to get over 75mph. It's
> not too bad off the motorway though, hence the cracks  :)
Yup :-) I guess we all have such performances in our history. I remember
having took 95MPH on a desert countryside road last year, down then uphill,
damn that was good :-)

Errr, perhaps a spark plugs & air filter change could cure it. AFAIK the XU
series aren't prone to vapor-locking (at least not the same way than many
Renault engines, which have both manifolds on the same side). If you car has
many miles, a valve clearances check could be instructive, too, even if it's
shim-trimmed it may have moved.

HTH,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com

> Streltsky
Streltsky - 07 Jul 2005 00:34 GMT
>Errr, perhaps a spark plugs & air filter change could cure it


Thanks but it’s a Diesel. It’s a reconditioned lump thats done around
50k since being fitted to my car. The car is fine on cool nights,
lively energetic and ready to go but in the heat of the day it just
seems to get an asthma attack.
I’m probably just asking too much off a standard aspiration diesel.
Even the TDI Xantia I had as a courtesy car a while back ran better in
cool dry conditions, though the change was less obvious.

Streltsky
G.T - 07 Jul 2005 09:47 GMT
Hi,

> >Errr, perhaps a spark plugs & air filter change could cure it
> Thanks but it's a Diesel. It's a reconditioned lump thats done around
> 50k since being fitted to my car. The car is fine on cool nights,
> lively energetic and ready to go but in the heat of the day it just
> seems to get an asthma attack.
Oooops, yeah so, forget about spark plugs :-)
My '93 Junior D also has less performance when driven on warm weather, but
still has enough power to bring me where I want. I guess that's just a
feature, of an effect of too warm air inlet.

Regards,
G.T
g.t6@worldonline.fr
205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com
 
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