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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / August 2005307 HDI hankbrake problem
I am wondering if this is a known issue or if anyone has seen or heard of the problem before. If you have please can you post a reply. I have recently returned a Peugeot 307 2.0 HDi to the dealer after the hand brake failed twice within a month. The first time the car rolled down a hill into a post after the hand brake released without warning. When I got to the car the hand-brake was still on and the leaver was on 3 or 4 ratchet settings which was the maximum setting. When I pulled the hand brake up again the hand-brake then travelled some 10 plus more ratchet setting so that the leaver was pointing almost to the ceiling of the car before the brakes would hold the car. The dealer took the brakes off the car and upon replacement claimed there was no fault. When I next parked the car the same thing happened again. Once again the dealer took the brakes off the car and claim there was no fault. I have have been told by one mechanic that this is a known issue which Peugeot's and that Peugeot themselves are not admitting liability even though lots of dealers are reporting this problem. I have also been told that Peugeot now sell a hand brake kit which is part of a 60,000 service. Any comments on the matter will be very helpful. thanks Stevie D. >I am wondering if this is a known issue or if anyone has seen or heard > of the problem before. If you have please can you post a reply. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Any comments on the matter will be very helpful. A few years ago Watchdog (BBC TV) covered a similar problem with Citroen Xantias. Apparently the handbrake operated on the rear brake disks. If the disks were hot when the handbrake was applied it would slacken as the disks cooled and contracted. There were a number of incidents of cars rolling down hills. I had assumed that this was why my 406 had a separate small drum brake on each rear wheel for the handbrake in addition to the disk for normal braking. I am not familiar with the 307 but it seems a strange coincidence.  SignatureKeith Willcocks (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? > I am wondering if this is a known issue or if anyone has seen or heard > of the problem before. If you have please can you post a reply. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Stevie D. > Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? Probably because that is a bad habit. -- R >> Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? > > Probably because that is a bad habit. Where the hand brake works on drums I might agree with you, but for disc brakes, especially if they are hot when the hand brake is applied, it is desirable otherwise contraction of the disc as it cools will let the brake off. Ron Robinson >>> Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > desirable otherwise contraction of the disc as it cools will let the brake > off. It's never ever done it to me, or any of the vehicles in our fleet (50 vehicles). It's a bad habit! -- R >>>> Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It's never ever done it to me, or any of the vehicles in our fleet (50 > vehicles). It's a bad habit! Has your fleet ever contained a car whose handbrake worked on the front discs? By the way, why is it a bad habit? Surely you always check whether a car is in gear before you start it, don't you? Ron Robinson >>>> Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? >>> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > It's never ever done it to me, or any of the vehicles in our fleet (50 > vehicles). You've never had a crappy handbrake, or had one sieze-on or anything similar ? In a fleet of 50 cars ? > It's a bad habit! It's an excellent habit. > It's an excellent habit. Agreed. Coupled with checking that it's not in gear when you start the ignition. You only have to forget to take it out of gear once, and then you always remember (especially with a 2-litre turbo diesel). I notice that the detractor still hasn't explained why it's a bad habit to leave a car in gear, when parked on a slope. SignaturesA Hi, > I notice that the detractor still hasn't explained why it's a bad habit to > leave a car in gear, when parked on a slope. It puts some stress on gears and pinions (spelling ?), and the most annoying thing is if someone bumps your car while parked in gear it could ruin your gearbox. I don't know how you park in UK, but I'm sure it's the same way than in France :-) Another solution is to steer and put the tyre along the sidewalk so it touches the sidewalk's side. Works great, no need to get in gear - assuming that the slope's way won't change while you're parked :-) I don't know if my explaination is well written, but I'm sure you see what I mean. Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com > Hi, > >> I notice that the detractor still hasn't explained why it's a bad >> habit to leave a car in gear, when parked on a slope. > > It puts some stress on gears and pinions (spelling ?), Well, not really ! Any load is minimal. > and the most > annoying thing is if someone bumps your car while parked in gear it > could ruin your gearbox. There is that. But if someone's smacked into your car, then you're screwed anyway :) Hi, > > It puts some stress on gears and pinions (spelling ?), > Well, not really ! Any load is minimal. Quite true. Read "some stress which is not necessary". I guess it appears as quite important for naturally easy-to-ruin gearboxes (I think of VW's). > > and the most > > annoying thing is if someone bumps your car while parked in gear it > > could ruin your gearbox. > There is that. But if someone's smacked into your car, then you're screwed > anyway :) Seems it doesn't need a so violent shock to ruin the gearbox. Needless to say I haven't done the test :-) Regards, G.T g.t6@worldonline.fr 205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel : www.205d.com >> It's an excellent habit. >Agreed. Coupled with checking that it's not in gear when you start the >ignition. > >You only have to forget to take it out of gear once, and then you always >remember (especially with a 2-litre turbo diesel). What happens when somebody whacks your parked in-gear diesel? >I notice that the detractor still hasn't explained why it's a bad habit to >leave a car in gear, when parked on a slope. The advice to leave a car in gear (and turn the wheels) when parking on a hill is in the Highway Code now; it wasn't when I passed my test mmmmm years ago. Perhaps I should read it again! http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/22.htm#226 > The advice to leave a car in gear (and turn the wheels) when parking > on a hill is in the Highway Code now; it wasn't when I passed my test > mmmmm years ago. Perhaps I should read it again! > > http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/22.htm#226 Certainly has been since I first read it in '89 and it makes sense as well, at least when in gear if the handbrake/parking brake fails then it'll not gather so much speed. Leaving it with the wheels turned slightly as well means that whatever way it rolls it'll not go far. Chris >>> It's an excellent habit. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > What happens when somebody whacks your parked in-gear diesel? Then lots of things break ! If you have to take special steps incase of people whacking your car, then I think you should be parking somewhere else :) >> I notice that the detractor still hasn't explained why it's a bad >> habit to leave a car in gear, when parked on a slope. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/22.htm#226 Ah, interesting. >> Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? > > Probably because that is a bad habit. Huh ? You should always leave your car in gear when you park, to prevent precisely the problems we're discussing ! >>> Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > You should always leave your car in gear when you park, to prevent > precisely the problems we're discussing ! Right. If everybody put their car in gear when they parked it, my friends daughter would probably have lived to more than 3 years of age. :( >>>> Why don't you leave the car in gear when you park!? >>> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > If everybody put their car in gear when they parked it, my friends > daughter would probably have lived to more than 3 years of age. :( I'm sorry to hear that :( My 53 reg 307 estate has done this once - there was nothing for it to bump into though -since then i also leave the car in gear- Fords have the same problem on there latest shape Mondeo`s and Fords official answer to this problem is to depress the foot brake hard and hold before you put the hand brake on - this in effect lets you obtain an extra couple of clicks - if i was you though i would leave the car in gear as well - better safe than sorry ! >I am wondering if this is a known issue or if anyone has seen or heard >of the problem before. If you have please can you post a reply. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > >Stevie D. >>I have recently returned a Peugeot 307 2.0 HDi to the dealer after the >>hand brake failed twice within a month. The first time the car rolled >>down a hill into a post after the hand brake released without warning. >>I have have been told by one mechanic that this is a known issue which >>Peugeot's and that Peugeot themselves are not admitting liability even >>though lots of dealers are reporting this problem. I have also been >>told that Peugeot now sell a hand brake kit which is part of a 60,000 >>service. > My 53 reg 307 estate has done this once - there was nothing for it >to bump into though -since then i also leave the car in gear- Fords [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >an extra couple of clicks - if i was you though i would leave the car >in gear as well - better safe than sorry ! I have never left my car in gear. On those occasions where I have feared it rolling away I have turned the wheels to the appropriate lock so that it would roll into the kerb. >>>I have recently returned a Peugeot 307 2.0 HDi to the dealer after the >>>hand brake failed twice within a month. The first time the car rolled [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > feared it rolling away I have turned the wheels to the appropriate > lock so that it would roll into the kerb. In a car park? SignatureKeith Willcocks (If you can't laugh at life, it ain't worth living!) >>> I have recently returned a Peugeot 307 2.0 HDi to the dealer after >>> the hand brake failed twice within a month. The first time the car [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > I have never left my car in gear. You should always leave your car in gear. > On those occasions where I have > feared it rolling away I have turned the wheels to the appropriate > lock so that it would roll into the kerb. Er, why not just leave it in gear instead ??? |
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