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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / February 2006

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Madrigo Padrigo - 05 Feb 2006 15:45 GMT
Hearing a lot aabout using various types of cooking oil instead of diesel?

Your views please.

TIA
Bigbird - 05 Feb 2006 19:24 GMT
> Hearing a lot aabout using various types of cooking oil instead of
> diesel?
> Your views please.
>
> TIA

1. It's illegal or pointless
2. Too viscous for cold weather.
daddyfreddy@gmail.com - 05 Feb 2006 19:32 GMT
> Hearing a lot aabout using various types of cooking oil instead of diesel?
>
> Your views please.
>
> TIA

It's not simply a case of shoving cooking oil straight into the car.
You need to add something or another and leave it to 'ferment'.
It's also only usable on direct injection engines, AFAIK.

Your best get is a google. However, it's illegal to use the stuff and I
certainly wouldn't use it.
Malc - 05 Feb 2006 21:42 GMT
> > Hearing a lot aabout using various types of cooking oil instead of diesel?
> >
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> Your best get is a google. However, it's illegal to use the stuff and I
> certainly wouldn't use it.

There's a chap who posts in the alt.autos.citroen group whos run his
Xantia on a 50/50 diesel/sunflower oil mix for the last 4000 miles at
temperatures down to -7 Celcius. Claims not to have had any problems so
far.

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Tony Hoyle - 05 Feb 2006 22:31 GMT
> There's a chap who posts in the alt.autos.citroen group whos run his
> Xantia on a 50/50 diesel/sunflower oil mix for the last 4000 miles at
> temperatures down to -7 Celcius. Claims not to have had any problems so
> far.

That's basically B50 biodiesel (they use a catalyst to break that down
though rather than using pure sunflower oil.. ).  It's perfectly legal
as long as you pay the tax on it...

Wouldn't bother making my own - just find a local producer and buy
some.  Tax is 20p/litre less than standard diesel, but the production
costs are higher so you don't save a lot, if anything.

The original diesels were run on peanut oil and (later) vegetable
oil... it's taken us 100 years to come full circle.  Gotta love
progress :P

Tony
Brian - 06 Feb 2006 09:43 GMT
> > There's a chap who posts in the alt.autos.citroen group whos run his
> > Xantia on a 50/50 diesel/sunflower oil mix for the last 4000 miles at
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>
> Tony

You can get a lot of information here
http://www.bio-power.co.uk/index.htm

Ignoring the legality issue in many countries, there are lots of
ill-informed opinions around. Pretty well all diesels will run on
bio-diesel, either direct, or indirect injection.
You can also run on 100% neat sunflower oil, but you will need to start on
normal fuel, and be able to switch over to the veggie when the engine is
warm. You will also require an additional heat exchanger on the veggie fuel
line to heat it slightly. Thus you need an additional small tank for normal
diesel.
There is an issue with certain types of bio fuel, depending on the way they
are produced, certain additives can attack some rubber seals on fuel pumps.
This is assuming you are reclaiming old frying oil.
Chris - 06 Feb 2006 18:44 GMT
>>>There's a chap who posts in the alt.autos.citroen group whos run his
>>>Xantia on a 50/50 diesel/sunflower oil mix for the last 4000 miles at
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> are produced, certain additives can attack some rubber seals on fuel pumps.
> This is assuming you are reclaiming old frying oil.

So have you got all the stock of Sunflower oil out of Tescos
Brian???/lol lol lol
from Chris Addlestone Surrey
Malc - 06 Feb 2006 20:29 GMT
> So have you got all the stock of Sunflower oil out of Tescos Brian???/lol
> lol lol

My local ethnic shop (I don't know which country the owners are from) sells
veg oil in 5 gallon drums.

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Brian - 06 Feb 2006 21:54 GMT
> >>>There's a chap who posts in the alt.autos.citroen group whos run his
> >>>Xantia on a 50/50 diesel/sunflower oil mix for the last 4000 miles at
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> Brian???/lol lol lol
> from Chris Addlestone Surrey

I never buy more than 3 litres at a time, for the chip pan of course.
Ian O'Dowd - 08 Feb 2006 20:30 GMT
Most supermarkets are wise to 'alternative' uses for cooking oil and will
refuse to sell it in volume.

I'm suprised they haven't pioneered Bio Diesel in their pumps though as I'm
guessing they are aligned nicely to do so and return a nice profit.

> > >>>There's a chap who posts in the alt.autos.citroen group whos run his
> > >>>Xantia on a 50/50 diesel/sunflower oil mix for the last 4000 miles at
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> I never buy more than 3 litres at a time, for the chip pan of course.
 
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