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Car Forum / Peugeot Cars / March 2006

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Peugeot 306 1.4 1998 breather hose broken?

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David Hearn - 20 Mar 2006 13:30 GMT
On Saturday I found that the breather hose on the our Peugeot 306 1998/S
1.4l petrol engine had broken.  It previously had been covered with
insulation tape and was quite oily - however, when I changed the air
filter I discovered it wasn't actually connected at all!

A picture of the hose (with break) is here:
http://www.swampie.ukfsn.org/IMG_2950_Large.JPG

Unfortunately I can't see a way of repairing it easily, so I wondered
whether replacing it would be the best option.  For now I've reattached
the two pieces using 50mm masking tape! (It's all I had!)

Any idea what the symptoms would be with a broken breather hose?  I've
noticed the car is quite lumpy sometimes (runs fine, but can be a little
even during idling etc).  I noticed that the whole exhaust pipe moves
significantly during idling, which probably is causing our regular
failure of exhaust pipes (front box one year, rear the next).  Just had
the rear replaced when the middle rubber support snapped, and whole
system dropped, punching pipe into otherwise perfect rear box).

So - is this a Peugeot only part?  The hose has quick release connectors
on both ends, so I'm wondering whether it's a Pug only part.  I have a
GSF Car Parts factor close to me (Farnham) or Peugeot Aldershot if
necessary.  Any idea of the cost?  Any suggestions as to a suitable
air-tight repair?  It's quite oily, and not a flat surface (corrugated).

One final question - what is the actual name of the part I should be
asking for, and what does it actually do?

Thanks

D
Tim-mz500r - 20 Mar 2006 15:08 GMT
> On Saturday I found that the breather hose on the our Peugeot 306 1998/S
> 1.4l petrol engine had broken.  It previously had been covered with
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> Thanks

Hi if you were to slice (1)very carefully the old pipe you may find a rubber
hose will fit in its place otherwise get a replacement pipe from  peugeot or
citroen tis the same thing and they do sometime run lumpy with it
disconnected hth.
(1) usal disclaimer applies !
Lin Chung - 20 Mar 2006 21:09 GMT
>...the breather hose on the our Peugeot 306 1998/S 1.4l petrol engine had
>broken.  It previously had been covered with insulation tape and was quite
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> etc).  I noticed that the whole exhaust pipe moves significantly during
> idling, which probably is causing our regular failure of exhaust pipes...

A leaking PCV, which is between the AFS (or the MAP) and the combustion
chambers, allows more air into the engine.  The ECM receiving air mass
information solely from the AFS (or the MAP) is fooled.  Consequently at all
times other than at part-throttle steady cruising engine speed (i.e. 90% of
all driving experience, and where the OS *corrects* the inappropriate
injector pulse duration by negative feedback in concert with the ECM) the
car is running at a *leaner* air-fuel mixture than it should.  At natural
idle speed the response from the ECM, being geared to an air input from the
ISCV, is again incorrect (too low) for the PCV inputs an additional quantity
of air after the ISCV.  This explains why "the car is quite lumpy sometimes
(runs fine, but can be a little [rough? Have you missed a word here?] even
during idling etc)"....

Self-Amalgamating Tape should provide a more air and water tight seal.  This
may be all you need.
http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q12B253DC

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Malc - 20 Mar 2006 21:45 GMT
> On Saturday I found that the breather hose on the our Peugeot 306 1998/S
> 1.4l petrol engine had broken.  It previously had been covered with
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> whether replacing it would be the best option.  For now I've reattached
> the two pieces using 50mm masking tape! (It's all I had!)

Duct tape at least temporarily. Then either a new pipe from Peugeot or go to
a scrappies where an intact one will cost buttons.

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